Comments on: Review: The Twilight Saga: New Moon http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php A Website About Movies Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: steph http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-158735 steph Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:28:37 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-158735 You have a few points in this review. I am, probably, one of the people you would considered "obsessed" with the twilight saga, and when i saw the movie, no matter what the outcome was, i was just happy it was here. Of course the direction in this film was not the best obviously, but comparing this to Harry Potter, a 7 book series that has a sold like a trillion dollars, really shouldn't be in the picture. They don't have a budget as big as HP so the effects aren't going to be as professional as you think they should be. A movie really shouldn't be based on how it looks, it should be based on how it made u feel. Twilight makes me feel bubbly inside, and happy, so the film itself as in the structure really isn't as big of a deal to me. And now, your critizing the characters. Ok so the characters in the book, as Bella, for example are pretty much like normal teenagers today. When you see teenagers today, girls are all whiney and cry about their boyfriends. That's just how it is. And I'm guessing you haven't read the book so you don't see the strenght in her love for this boy who just happened to be a vampire. She is like a magnet, wanting to get to his other side even if it's not meant to be. Then there's Edward. RPatz is doing the best he can. Think of it- Edward is described as the most beautiful man ever. How do you except someone to play up to that without having a few negatives. Now, I'm not defending or saying your wrong, it's just that Twilight has a larger meaning to what you are putting it up to. I must say that of course there are a few slip ups and who would want it to be better? but i guess im just taking what i get because i love this saga for its meaning and the true feelings that so many people can relate to. Wouldn't you want to almost die if your loved person-the person you pretty much live for- leaves you. Think about it... You have a few points in this review. I am, probably, one of the people you would considered “obsessed” with the twilight saga, and when i saw the movie, no matter what the outcome was, i was just happy it was here. Of course the direction in this film was not the best obviously, but comparing this to Harry Potter, a 7 book series that has a sold like a trillion dollars, really shouldn't be in the picture. They don't have a budget as big as HP so the effects aren't going to be as professional as you think they should be. A movie really shouldn't be based on how it looks, it should be based on how it made u feel. Twilight makes me feel bubbly inside, and happy, so the film itself as in the structure really isn't as big of a deal to me. And now, your critizing the characters. Ok so the characters in the book, as Bella, for example are pretty much like normal teenagers today. When you see teenagers today, girls are all whiney and cry about their boyfriends. That's just how it is. And I'm guessing you haven't read the book so you don't see the strenght in her love for this boy who just happened to be a vampire. She is like a magnet, wanting to get to his other side even if it's not meant to be. Then there's Edward. RPatz is doing the best he can. Think of it- Edward is described as the most beautiful man ever. How do you except someone to play up to that without having a few negatives. Now, I'm not defending or saying your wrong, it's just that Twilight has a larger meaning to what you are putting it up to. I must say that of course there are a few slip ups and who would want it to be better? but i guess im just taking what i get because i love this saga for its meaning and the true feelings that so many people can relate to. Wouldn't you want to almost die if your loved person-the person you pretty much live for- leaves you. Think about it…

]]> By: Linda http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-153544 Linda Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:10:24 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-153544 You are right on all counts. As a fan I expected more and with the money Summit is making from the fan base I'd like to know why we didn"t get more. Where to begin? 1. Score-Desplat was a bad choice for this youthful, hip film. I listened to his scores from other films when I heard about the change and I feared he would be a problem. (He did Lust/Caution) The score was overdone and with the exception of "The Meadow" and not even memorable. Weiz had worked with him on his last film and wanted him. But he was all wrong for this type of movie. 2. Screenplay Where did all the cheesy dialogue come from?? Rosenburg could have done better. Plus what was that scene of them running in the meadow in Alices "vision". That was the super cheese moment of the whole movie and my 15 yr old daughter actually broke out laughing. I think the actors did the very best they could with what they were given, especially Kristen, but its hard to make a good movie from a bad script. 3. Direction I'm sorry Chris but I saw nothing of real vision here. certainly nothing as fun as the vampire baseball scene from the first film. Like the freeze frame of Jasper hitting the ball-cool. Or Hardwick telling Rosalie to call Emmett her "monkey man" as he goes after the ball. I liked the blue cast over the Washington forest and the mist that hung low as the arial shots propelled us into an almost "other worldly" place. A place were something unexpected might happen. 4. Wardrobe What was the deal here?? Edward wearing suits and coats with velvet collars. Please!!! Even Alice was overdone. And FYI: The golden eyes should not be overdone as it would be impossible for them to even attempt to blend in with the human population. Also I think that they should have considered staying with real wolves which can be very menacing. Perhaps used scale as they did for the hobbits in Lord of the Rings. The CGI was good but natural is always better. Besides I'm not sure the author meant them to be werewolves exactly, just large wolves. Anyway it is more in keeping with the natural feeling of the Pacific Northwest and Indian culture in general. Oh well. I guess I'll stop and just say I am a fan but I think for all Summit is making off the fans a better film with a bigger budget was in order. I mean I have seen animated films with bigger budgets than 50 mil. Love to all and let's try to remember that film and books are two very different media and we should not demand a literal interpretaion and allow some room for originality. You are right on all counts. As a fan I expected more and with the money Summit is making from the fan base I'd like to know why we didn”t get more. Where to begin? 1. Score-Desplat was a bad choice for this youthful, hip film. I listened to his scores from other films when I heard about the change and I feared he would be a problem. (He did Lust/Caution) The score was overdone and with the exception of “The Meadow” and not even memorable. Weiz had worked with him on his last film and wanted him. But he was all wrong for this type of movie. 2. Screenplay Where did all the cheesy dialogue come from?? Rosenburg could have done better. Plus what was that scene of them running in the meadow in Alices “vision”. That was the super cheese moment of the whole movie and my 15 yr old daughter actually broke out laughing. I think the actors did the very best they could with what they were given, especially Kristen, but its hard to make a good movie from a bad script. 3. Direction I'm sorry Chris but I saw nothing of real vision here. certainly nothing as fun as the vampire baseball scene from the first film. Like the freeze frame of Jasper hitting the ball-cool. Or Hardwick telling Rosalie to call Emmett her “monkey man” as he goes after the ball. I liked the blue cast over the Washington forest and the mist that hung low as the arial shots propelled us into an almost “other worldly” place. A place were something unexpected might happen. 4. Wardrobe What was the deal here?? Edward wearing suits and coats with velvet collars. Please!!! Even Alice was overdone. And FYI: The golden eyes should not be overdone as it would be impossible for them to even attempt to blend in with the human population. Also I think that they should have considered staying with real wolves which can be very menacing. Perhaps used scale as they did for the hobbits in Lord of the Rings. The CGI was good but natural is always better. Besides I'm not sure the author meant them to be werewolves exactly, just large wolves. Anyway it is more in keeping with the natural feeling of the Pacific Northwest and Indian culture in general. Oh well. I guess I'll stop and just say I am a fan but I think for all Summit is making off the fans a better film with a bigger budget was in order. I mean I have seen animated films with bigger budgets than 50 mil. Love to all and let's try to remember that film and books are two very different media and we should not demand a literal interpretaion and allow some room for originality.

]]> By: Linda http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151344 Linda Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:10:24 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151344 You are right on all counts. As a fan I expected more and with the money Summit is making from the fan base I'd like to know why we didn"t get more. Where to begin? 1. Score-Desplat was a bad choice for this youthful, hip film. I listened to his scores from other films when I heard about the change and I feared he would be a problem. (He did Lust/Caution) The score was overdone and with the exception of "The Meadow" and not even memorable. Weiz had worked with him on his last film and wanted him. But he was all wrong for this type of movie. 2. Screenplay Where did all the cheesy dialogue come from?? Rosenburg could have done better. Plus what was that scene of them running in the meadow in Alices "vision". That was the super cheese moment of the whole movie and my 15 yr old daughter actually broke out laughing. I think the actors did the very best they could with what they were given, especially Kristen, but its hard to make a good movie from a bad script. 3. Direction I'm sorry Chris but I saw nothing of real vision here. certainly nothing as fun as the vampire baseball scene from the first film. Like the freeze frame of Jasper hitting the ball-cool. Or Hardwick telling Rosalie to call Emmett her "monkey man" as he goes after the ball. I liked the blue cast over the Washington forest and the mist that hung low as the arial shots propelled us into an almost "other worldly" place. A place were something unexpected might happen. 4. Wardrobe What was the deal here?? Edward wearing suits and coats with velvet collars. Please!!! Even Alice was overdone. And FYI: The golden eyes should not be overdone as it would be impossible for them to even attempt to blend in with the human population. Also I think that they should have considered staying with real wolves which can be very menacing. Perhaps used scale as they did for the hobbits in Lord of the Rings. The CGI was good but natural is always better. Besides I'm not sure the author meant them to be werewolves exactly, just large wolves. Anyway it is more in keeping with the natural feeling of the Pacific Northwest and Indian culture in general. Oh well. I guess I'll stop and just say I am a fan but I think for all Summit is making off the fans a better film with a bigger budget was in order. I mean I have seen animated films with bigger budgets than 50 mil. Love to all and let's try to remember that film and books are two very different media and we should not demand a literal interpretaion and allow some room for originality. You are right on all counts. As a fan I expected more and with the money Summit is making from the fan base I'd like to know why we didn”t get more. Where to begin? 1. Score-Desplat was a bad choice for this youthful, hip film. I listened to his scores from other films when I heard about the change and I feared he would be a problem. (He did Lust/Caution) The score was overdone and with the exception of “The Meadow” and not even memorable. Weiz had worked with him on his last film and wanted him. But he was all wrong for this type of movie. 2. Screenplay Where did all the cheesy dialogue come from?? Rosenburg could have done better. Plus what was that scene of them running in the meadow in Alices “vision”. That was the super cheese moment of the whole movie and my 15 yr old daughter actually broke out laughing. I think the actors did the very best they could with what they were given, especially Kristen, but its hard to make a good movie from a bad script. 3. Direction I'm sorry Chris but I saw nothing of real vision here. certainly nothing as fun as the vampire baseball scene from the first film. Like the freeze frame of Jasper hitting the ball-cool. Or Hardwick telling Rosalie to call Emmett her “monkey man” as he goes after the ball. I liked the blue cast over the Washington forest and the mist that hung low as the arial shots propelled us into an almost “other worldly” place. A place were something unexpected might happen. 4. Wardrobe What was the deal here?? Edward wearing suits and coats with velvet collars. Please!!! Even Alice was overdone. And FYI: The golden eyes should not be overdone as it would be impossible for them to even attempt to blend in with the human population. Also I think that they should have considered staying with real wolves which can be very menacing. Perhaps used scale as they did for the hobbits in Lord of the Rings. The CGI was good but natural is always better. Besides I'm not sure the author meant them to be werewolves exactly, just large wolves. Anyway it is more in keeping with the natural feeling of the Pacific Northwest and Indian culture in general. Oh well. I guess I'll stop and just say I am a fan but I think for all Summit is making off the fans a better film with a bigger budget was in order. I mean I have seen animated films with bigger budgets than 50 mil. Love to all and let's try to remember that film and books are two very different media and we should not demand a literal interpretaion and allow some room for originality.

]]> By: Mon Cheri http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151316 Mon Cheri Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:15:34 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151316 It looks amazing! It looks amazing!

]]> By: slg http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151307 slg Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:35:39 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151307 I just saw the movie today and I am some what disappointed. Even thou I did like the movie, I have to say I think I liked the first one better. Some how I just didn't feel that chemistry between Bella and Edward in this film. I think the roles of the Cullens and the Volturi should have been beefed up a little, since they each had such small roles in the film as well as Edward's. Also, I noticed several scences that were in the various trailers that were not in the film. I don't know if it was the look of the film or the look of the locations, but things just looked off from the first film. Also, I thought things looked fake (like the Cullen house, Bella's house and her bedroom, etc.) I did not care for the lighter, more yellow eyes of the Cullens. They looked really freaky and fake. I do agree that if you have not read the novels, I think you would be a little lost. It seemed that too many things were touched upon, but never really explained and got into any real depth. I'm not even sure if I cared for the soundtrack. I think I'll have to see it a few more times to see what I'm missing. However, I loved, loved, loved the books! I just saw the movie today and I am some what disappointed. Even thou I did like the movie, I have to say I think I liked the first one better. Some how I just didn't feel that chemistry between Bella and Edward in this film. I think the roles of the Cullens and the Volturi should have been beefed up a little, since they each had such small roles in the film as well as Edward's. Also, I noticed several scences that were in the various trailers that were not in the film. I don't know if it was the look of the film or the look of the locations, but things just looked off from the first film. Also, I thought things looked fake (like the Cullen house, Bella's house and her bedroom, etc.) I did not care for the lighter, more yellow eyes of the Cullens. They looked really freaky and fake. I do agree that if you have not read the novels, I think you would be a little lost. It seemed that too many things were touched upon, but never really explained and got into any real depth. I'm not even sure if I cared for the soundtrack. I think I'll have to see it a few more times to see what I'm missing. However, I loved, loved, loved the books!

]]> By: Cole_Abaius http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151305 Cole_Abaius Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:28:55 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151305 Some good points here, Miller. Which shocks me. <br><br>But, I'm starting to think that one of the main problems with the movies (which will plague the others, too) comes straight from the source material. It's also why teenagers can still really love the films (which won't plague the others).<br><br>It's because it's teenagers. Think about it. Would we really have the same problems if the characters were in their twenties? We'd probably roll our eyes the way most men are legally obliged to when it comes to Austen adaptations, but at least we'd buy them as genuine. <br><br>We simply just can't accept that someone who is 17 can be "in love" anymore. All that deep soul connection that they talk about doesn't ring true because they are young (and in being young are also really boring without much rounded personality).<br><br>Just a thought...there are obviously other problems, but I think that's a major hobbling point. Some good points here, Miller. Which shocks me.

But, I'm starting to think that one of the main problems with the movies (which will plague the others, too) comes straight from the source material. It's also why teenagers can still really love the films (which won't plague the others).

It's because it's teenagers. Think about it. Would we really have the same problems if the characters were in their twenties? We'd probably roll our eyes the way most men are legally obliged to when it comes to Austen adaptations, but at least we'd buy them as genuine.

We simply just can't accept that someone who is 17 can be “in love” anymore. All that deep soul connection that they talk about doesn't ring true because they are young (and in being young are also really boring without much rounded personality).

Just a thought…there are obviously other problems, but I think that's a major hobbling point.

]]> By: Cole_Abaius http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151304 Cole_Abaius Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:24:06 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151304 Hey! I love golf. <br><br>But Neil is right. I once saw Ernie Els turn into a giant wolf with sympathetic eyes before the 14th at Augusta. Admittedly, it's a tough hole, so I don't blame him. Hey! I love golf.

But Neil is right. I once saw Ernie Els turn into a giant wolf with sympathetic eyes before the 14th at Augusta. Admittedly, it's a tough hole, so I don't blame him.

]]> By: kevin http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151299 kevin Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:36:45 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151299 it was really nice. i love that movie , The twilight saga: new movies. some scenes were fantastic and i could not even believe. omg, i was cried that scene, when Bella tried to stop Edward from begin killing. <br>source<br><a href="http://blog.80millionmoviesfree.com/in-theaters/watch-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-online" rel="nofollow">http://blog.80millionmoviesfree.com/in-theaters...</a> it was really nice. i love that movie , The twilight saga: new movies. some scenes were fantastic and i could not even believe. omg, i was cried that scene, when Bella tried to stop Edward from begin killing.
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http://blog.80millionmoviesfree.com/in-theaters…

]]> By: /tv/ http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151297 /tv/ Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:27:12 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151297 >The rest of the movie is about as moving and engaging as watching a 24-hour golf marathon on television, in French<br><br>oh god LOL >The rest of the movie is about as moving and engaging as watching a 24-hour golf marathon on television, in French

oh god LOL

]]> By: mymhm http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151296 mymhm Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:52:22 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151296 Interesting.<br>You graded it higher than I thought you would... Interesting.
You graded it higher than I thought you would…

]]> By: dtwilightman http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151292 dtwilightman Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:04:13 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151292 So after reading the review I had to go back to the top and see what your name was. That explained much. You make some points that are good. However, you make it sound like making a movie for the fan base is a bad thing. Since the movie has broken all 1st day sales I think Summit achieved one goal. And for fans, we want more so we need it to be a success. Does the story make more sense if you know the books? Duh. Meyer wrote the books visually conceiving the story, best to stay with that. New Moon works better than Twilight because it is stayed closer to the books.<br>I would like to see more animation in the portrayal. I think key opportunities were missed to move the story along. When Jacob climbs into Bella's room there are a couple of places where Bella should have had lines to fill in what is going on. This would help the movie hang together on it's own so that the viewer isn't so reliant on previous book knowledge. The same is true with the proposal scene. We don't get the sense of how much of a problem that is for Bella. Those of that know the books get it, but others won't.<br>So my first statement. An extremely high percentage of fans are women. I happen to not be female. However, I do have a very deep appreciation for relationships filled with romance and how fulfilling that is. This is what Twilight and Eclipse provides. If most women found the kind of behavior Edward is an example of in their lives. These books/movies would not be so popular. So after reading the review I had to go back to the top and see what your name was. That explained much. You make some points that are good. However, you make it sound like making a movie for the fan base is a bad thing. Since the movie has broken all 1st day sales I think Summit achieved one goal. And for fans, we want more so we need it to be a success. Does the story make more sense if you know the books? Duh. Meyer wrote the books visually conceiving the story, best to stay with that. New Moon works better than Twilight because it is stayed closer to the books.
I would like to see more animation in the portrayal. I think key opportunities were missed to move the story along. When Jacob climbs into Bella's room there are a couple of places where Bella should have had lines to fill in what is going on. This would help the movie hang together on it's own so that the viewer isn't so reliant on previous book knowledge. The same is true with the proposal scene. We don't get the sense of how much of a problem that is for Bella. Those of that know the books get it, but others won't.
So my first statement. An extremely high percentage of fans are women. I happen to not be female. However, I do have a very deep appreciation for relationships filled with romance and how fulfilling that is. This is what Twilight and Eclipse provides. If most women found the kind of behavior Edward is an example of in their lives. These books/movies would not be so popular.

]]> By: Reebee7 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/reviews/review-the-twilight-saga-new-moon-neilm.php/comment-page-1#comment-151277 Reebee7 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:19:16 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=58960#comment-151277 Be prepared to be fed to the wolves. The werewolves, that is. <br><br>Great review, though. Be prepared to be fed to the wolves. The werewolves, that is.

Great review, though.

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