Fans Get Militant Over Negative Dark Knight Reviews

Posted by Josh Radde (josh@filmschoolrejects.com) on July 16, 2008

Citizens for Kicking David Denby's Ass

I’d venture a guess and say that The New Yorker is having a frustrating week. First David Remnick, editor of the publication, went on CNN to defend his “tasteless” and “fear-mongering inducing” cover featuring a Muslim Barack Obama giving a “terrorist bump” to Militant Michelle in the Oval Office while burning an American flag in the corner. Now, he may have to on E! and defend critic David Denby’s outlandish criticism of The Dark Knight.

Film Critic David DenbySome people, myself included, check Rotten Tomatoes regularly during the week any particular movie comes out. When Hancock kept dropping and dropping I decided I wouldn’t drop everything to go check it out. Likewise, when Wanted displayed good reviews it crept onto my checklist. RT is a good source for people who want to go to the movies, but are wary on what they spend their $20 on (including a small popcorn and Milk Duds). And for those paying particular close attention to The Dark Knight (which was holding steady at 100% for awhile), David Denby’s review was a shot in the head.

Denby didn’t denounce the movie. He didn’t even say it was “bad,” necessarily. Here’s the blurb in Rotten Tomatoes (I would urge you to stay away from the actual review, because it has some spoilers):

“This movie is grim and jammed together. The narrative isn’t shaped coherently to bring out contrasts and build toward a satisfying climax. The Dark Knight is constant climax; it’s always in a frenzy, and it goes on forever.”

Now some people will see that blurb and not take it seriously at all, because WHO DOESN’T WANT A CONSTANT CLIMAX (Am I right, guys, *nudge*)? But to defend Denby, it’s a perfectly reasoned and rational argument. He, like everyone, praised Ledger’s performance (”He’s part freaky clown, part Alice Cooper the morning after, and all actor. He’s mesmerizing in every scene.”) and said the IMAX experience left him “giddy.” Like some who criticized Batman Begins in 2005, he disapproves of Bale’s ghoulish voice and the fight choreography being too close to the camera to really soak in. In 2005 I had the same response to those critics–Liam Neeson’s line “this is not a dance.” There’s no need for a wide-angled fight because Batman’s one goal is to take down enemies as quickly as possible.

Heath Ledger as The JokerAs for the voice, I love it, but I can understand why some people don’t. It’s forced and rough, but it’s also intimidating and completes the separation between Batman and Bruce. There is no “Bruce” in “Batman” and vice versa and I think Bale has done a great job of juggling the duality (also written about nicely here in another FSR article). See how I reasoned that without calling Denby a f*ggot?

As for the “constant climax” remark, I can see what Denby is saying. Remember the film Armageddon–that movie is at full blast from the time the oil drillers leave Earth to when they return. Blockbusters fall into this trap too often, there’s just so much action that you don’t have any time to DESIRE more of it. A great action movie, like The Matrix, builds up to a climactic ending because each action sequence shows you a bit more, and more, until it all comes together at the end. I haven’t seen TDK yet, but I can understand the sentiment. A movie that shows you its best bit of action in the middle and doesn’t build towards an ending is frustrating, I call that the “Lethal Weapon 4 Effect.”

Also, while I was writing this article I checked back at RT’s home page and I now see that TDK has jumped from a ludicrously disappointing 88% approval to a satisfactorially sufficient 90%. I hope everyone keeps in mind, too, that Batman Begins ended with 84% approval.

I know that commenting on the Internet on sites like Rotten Tomatoes, AICN, and FSR is fun because you get a soundboard for your opinions and can remain anonymous. My mom got a touch of this when she commented on an FSR article I wrote about ten classics being converted to 3D and noticed that some people had taken to calling me an “idiot.” “Well, that’s so mean,” she said, “they missed the point of your article.” “That’s the Internet, mom,” I replied. That being said, there’s no reason for threatening David Denby’s life (in jest or not) because he didn’t like a Batman movie. It doesn’t matter that he gave Hancock a better rating than Iron Man. It doesn’t matter that he split his Dark Knight review with that of Wall-E (some insisted that showed disrespect to Batman, and didn’t see it as a space constraint in a publication). He’s a critic, and from what I can tell, an honest one. 520 comments dropping f-bombs, homosexual slurs, and hoping a man contracts AIDS based on his view of a Hollywood film is a bit extreme, especially coming from people who haven’t even seen the movie yet.

So please, give the man a break.

Instead, focus your fanboy hatred towards Eric D. Snider who just posted a review proclaiming The Dark Knight is “[e]asily the worst Batman film so far, and I include Batman & Robin in that statement.”*

Let’s lynch this f*cker.

*Snider’s review is a joke. But it did momentarily drop The Dark Knight’s RT rating below 90%.


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  • about those 520 comments on the review... there's about a half dozen negative reviews for TDK on RT.com, and all of the negative ones have hundreds of comments, compared to the 10 or 12 (if any) comments on the flurry of good reviews. the fans are speaking out.
  • Nate
    Denby's negative review was a well written one, while the others were not. Lash out at those. There was one guy from star magazine who wrote three paragraphs and his point was Why do comic book movies take them selves to seriously? Are you fucking kidding me? That's the guy who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
  • Nevernude
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! there are approxiimately 26 pages of responses to Mr Denby's review, and a lot of them attack him endlessly. Swear words aplenty from the fanboys. Im not gonna say he doesnt deserve all of it because his review is incoherent. He seems very much like he was having a bad day when he wrote his review.
    Although, wishing death upon him etc is VERY uncalled for.
  • The only thing that made me upset about Denby's review is that he gave away spoilers without warning readers. Any critic who gives away what happens in a movie is not doing his or her job correctly. I understand Denby's argument about the film, but throwing out spoilers is just lazy.
  • Zap Rowsdower
    Denby's a f--got.


    Just kidding.
  • Big Word
    I'm with you that us Fanboys and Fangirls can really get carried away because we're passionate about the characters & how they are portrayed and are tired of people not taking something we love seriously, (e.g.-The Academy, Reveiwers that have no real knowledge about the phenomenon that is, the Film Creators/Overseers/Studios-as Michael Bay is to Transformers since he didn't want to get involved in some stupid robot movie, etc., & even the actors/actresses who are the representations of these precious character's images-as Kirsten Dunst is to Spider-Man-(who the hell didn't grow up knowing something about Spider-Man??? WTF!? & how did she get the role when it could of gone to a more talented actress who'd of appreciated it like Donna from That 70's Show????...), but instead raping these stories to make megabucks (again...Transformers aka The 2hr GM/PepsiCo/iPod/etc commercial) & move on to the next comicbook hero/story at their leisure. So, when we have something that could be seriously enjoyed as both art and a respectable translation of a beloved comic book icon onto the silver screen being mocked or insulted, most of Fandom takes it personal. Whilst I agree with you that alot of people take it too far especially due to the fact that what you mentioned above are some seriously disturbed comments, (who the hell wishes AIDS on another person?!?!?!), I, as a bit of a Fanboy myself, can definitely appreciate sticking up for something we believe in and cherish. So spark up the Batsignal and plug your ears and cover your eyes to the negativity that are less than positive reviews and spend your movie-going $'s as you see fit!!!
  • Big Word
    Plus, if the reviewer were to use the websites powers to track down who wrote those "annonymous" comments on a blog page...can you say police involvement? & I'm not talking Gotham's Finest here. To write a comment on a blog page-like this one for example-you must be a member of said website which means that site has your personal info and that could be provided to police w/the proper request documents to file charges of threats, hate crimes, "verbal" abuse, or whatever other law is applicable to the scenario-you gotta watch what you write-even on the ether of cyberspace....
  • Hear, hear. People need to chill. It's ok for a critic to not like a film that you HAVEN'T seen yet.
  • Nevernude
    I agree with you Big Word..we have to wait a long time for a real proper comic adaptation movie to come around. And when they do, most of the time they suck. Suck a lot. So it really grates when a potentially awesome movie like TDK comes along, and some critics who give the thumbs up to bad movies like Hancock which is a money grabbing opportunistic holiday movie, and then turn around and rip apart our dreams and wishes and hopes with movies like TDK...it hurts. Read Roger Eberts review, the man speaks with a great wisdom and insight into what makes a movie like this special.

    Also, so far, theres a trend developing with the reviews. A lot of reviews from New York based critics are hatin on this film. Is it a location thing or what?
  • They must be jealous that Batman patrols Chicago (Gotham) and emo jazz-club Spider-Man patrols New York.
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