Cinematic Listology

Ten Batman Villains Who Should Never Be On Film

Posted by Robert Fure (robert@filmschoolrejects.com) on July 17, 2008

Batman Villains

You don’t hang around kicking criminal ass for 69 years without butting heads and making a few enemies. And let’s face it, Gotham City is a crazy place, full of whackjobs. It also exists in the same universe that has big green Martians, Aliens who fight for the American Way, and lots of talking animal people. Times have changed as well. Once upon a year, Batman strapping on a hang-glider and fighting a man who used kites as weapons made… Well I was going to say sense, but lets just say it made it into comics. Do any of these wacky characters belong in the gritty, realistic world that Christopher Nolan has crafted? Probably not. Here are some of the worst offenders in Batman’s rogues gallery - all of whom have been judged guilty of being ridiculous. The order is loosely descending, though its hard to sort dog crap into different piles based on beauty.

Man-Bat
10. Man-Bat. This dude always struck me as kind of lame - scratch that. At first, the idea of a giant mutant half-man half-bat is kind of awesome. But over time, this has gotten lame. There still is something appealing to me, as a monster fan, of this character, who started out as scientist Dr. Kirk Langstrom who’s experiments with bats went predictably wrong, resulting in his transformation. Mainly he doesn’t belong because he’s just too damn unrealistic for Nolanverse.
First Appearance: Detective Comics #400, 1970
Powers: He’s a damn giant bat.

Ventriloquist and Scarface
9. Ventriloquist and Scarface. I’d like to shake the hand of the man who invented this character with one of those electric buzzers. Part of me almost wants to see someone tackle this on the big screen. Arnold Wesker was the meek son of mobsters who goes a bit crazy after seeing his mother killed. He develops a dissociative identity which manifests it through his dummy, a gangster named Scarface. The Scarface personality takes over and soon the “duo” are tearing it up criminal style, with the puppet amazingly doing most of the dirty work. The character is just a bit ridiculous, though recently there has been an improvement - he’s been replaced by a hot chick.
First Appearance: Detective Comics #583, 1988
Powers: Pretty good at being a criminal, carries a gun, otherwise a pretty big wuss.

Kite Man
8. Kite Man. Bill Finger is a great man for his role in helping create Batman. Bill Finger made an odd decision when he created Charles Brown (Yes… Charlie Brown…), an expert hang-glider who straps himself to a giant kite and commits crime. There’s not much more to this guy other than, yes, he’s still around for the most part and he gets his ass handed to him all the time. Batman even knocked him out by accident once when trying to hit someone else. He’d be hilarious to see in a movie of the kind of lesser criminal, but probably he should be forgotten.
First Appearance: Batman Volume 1 #133, 1960
Powers: He flies kites. Flies them real damn good.

Film Freak
7. Film Freak. If resident Reject Cole Abaius were a Batvillain, he would either be The Ballerina or Film Freak. In the comics, good ol’ FF started out as Burt Weston (Burt Ward + Adam West), a movie fan who mimicked villains and crimes he saw in movies, much like what happened with Money Train. Except that Weston was pretty much a failure, right up until he crossed paths with a real villain and was killed. He even went so far as to wear earrings that looked like film cannisters. He actually did manage to kill a few people as a criminal, but really his forte was being an asshat.
First Appearance: Batman #395, 1986
Powers: Can watch the entire Lord of the Rings Trilogy without a bathroom break - if he weren’t dead.

Crazy Quilt
6. Crazy Quilt. This is what happens when you’re last in line at the costume store, you get stuck being Crazy Quilt. This guy (alias unknown) also has the honor of being a lame villain both before and after his accident. First, he’s a criminal who leaves clues to his henchmen through paintings. Later, after being blinded, after his eye surgery and the application of a light emitting helmet, his vision is restored in a blinding crazy colored fashion, that results in his insanity. He then, possibly while colorblind, picks out the ugliest costume in the world and goes on to commit more crimes with his helmet and a few gadgets that let him shoot light rays. He is utterly ridiculous in appearance and has a stupid ability, though he does get points for beating the hell out of Jason Todd.
First Appearance: Boy Commandos #15, 1946
Powers: Poor taste in clothing, hypnotizing helmet, light rays, incredible lameness, mustachio.

General
5. General. If there is one thing I hate more than stupid villains, its kids in comics. So when Ulysses Hadrian Armstrong bursts onto the scene as a child military genius villain, I’m using those issues to potty train my dog. Little Ulysses here got bored with the Military Academy, so he recruited the school bullies and marched them to Gotham, where they committed crimes while dressed as various armies throughout history (think Roman armor, etc), and then got soundly defeated by Batman and was then, hopefully, given a stern spanking by his father.
First Appearance: Detective Comics #654, 1992
Powers: Military genius, presumably good at four square and connect four.

Ten Eyed Man
4. Ten Eyed Man. I’ve been saving this expression: WTF? Special Forces good guy Philip Reardon catches some shrapnel in the face in The Nam and heads back to Gotham to work as a security. During a robbery he mistakenly believes Batman to be a criminal and battles him. During the warehouse explosion that follows, Reardon is permanently blinded. Sounds kind of cool so far, right? Not so fast. Soon, a crazy doctor “fixes” him by wiring his optical nerves to his fingers, allowing him to see out of his digits. Yeah. Apparently this gave him really good “eye”sight and he could see 360 degrees, but could often be easily defeated by just tossing something at him. When he caught the object, effectively using his eyes to do it, he would be in immense pain and thus defeated. And that is why this mook makes the list. Though the sexual ramifications of this are both exciting and frightening.
First Appearance: Batman #226, 1970
Powers: Great field of vision.

Clayface
3. Clayface. There have been no fewer than 7 different “Clayfaces” through the years, the original of which began life as just a normal guy who adopted the face of a horror monster he played on film and later, through various incarnations and reasons, become the name called to virtually any person who was, more or less, made of clay, or capable of doing clay like transformation patterns. In the comic and in the TV Show, that’s fine, I guess, but how do you justify someone who’s closest film analog is probably Sandman? We all saw how Spider-Man 3 turned out. As for how they get their powers, one was radioactive, others were from blood from previous Clayfaces and they even all teamed up once, just so they could be close while Batman whipped their asses.
First Appearance: Detective Comics #298, 1961 (Semi-Modern Clayface, not actor)
Powers: Actually pretty cool, can take any shape, very strong, can break apart, etc.

Mad Hatter
2. Mad Hatter. What a tool bag. Jervis Tetch is insane. He thinks he lives in Lewis Carrol’s world and goes as far to quote it frequently and he has, somewhat obviously, developed a strong love of hats. Normally this guy is written to be about as dangerous as one of my farts - not without its hazards, but surely not life threatening. Rarely is he written to be intimidating, mostly he’s just a mouse-like little man who tries to either slip mind control tablets (now available in cherry!) into your coffee or get you to wear a mind control hat. Since Batman absolutely hates wearing hats, he often just one punches Mad Hatter to the ground.
First Appearance: Batman #49, 1948
Powers: Mind control through gadgetry, scaring children with his pedophillic glances.

Calculator
1. Calculator. Now I just called Mad Hatter a tool bag, but this moron actually took his inspiration from a tool. Not a manly tool like a Hammer or Concrete Saw, but from a pocket calculator. This guy strapped a calculator to his chest, figured out some way to shoot “hard light” out of his helmet. His calculator supposedly made him impervious to ever being beaten by the same hero twice, but considering he picked a fight with the Justice League, there was a long line of people there to kick the hell out of him. Perhaps I’m being a bit hard on this cat, as recently Noah Kuttler, as he may be called, has been rewritten into a super-genius and master manipulator and ditched his costume. I consider that a remake, and thus unfair, and to balance out the universe, am making fun of him for his idiotic costume choices. To me, he’ll always be a fool, and I pity fools.
First Appearance: Detective Comics #463, 1976
Powers: Genius, Manipulator, Tactician, Presumably really awesome at math when he has a hand free to work his chest calculator.

Villains that Almost Made The List

Killer Croc - This guy should make the list for the same reason as Clayface and Man-Bat, but he is kind of cool and vicious so I cut him some slack. It would be tough to get him into the Nolanverse.

Bane - In the comics, Bane was pretty boss. Then Batman & Robin happened and I hate him. So out of pure piste of that film, I wanted to put him on this list.

Caveat

With the proper writing, directing, and costuming, almost any of these characters could be rewritten as interesting or dangerous or modern, but that’s just the thing - they’d be rewritten, taken far away from what they are or were. In these original states, without a lot of reworking, I don’t think any of these characters has a place on the big screen. And undoubtedly, I’ve missed tons of horrid characters as well.

Batman villains - which ones do you hate, which ones do you want to see on the big screen?


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44 Comments

Cole Abaius says:

For the record, I’d be The Ballerina, although I did watch the entire LOTR trilogy (extended edition) without a bathroom break.


Rob Hunter says:

@ Cole, peeing in your tutu counts as a bathroom break.


Kevin Carr says:

I have always said that Clayface would make an awesome villain… at least after Clayface 2… And Man-Bat was always awesome. Wouldn’t work in a world of The Dark Knight, but I’d love to see them done well.

The Calculator, et al… different story. I’ll give you those, Fure.


Robert Fure says:

Man-Bat and Clayface are awesome and should have a home in some PG-13 cartoons or something. But the Big Screen, its best they stay away from for awhile.


Scanain says:

Man Bat would look like Dracula at the end of Val Helsing, be cool for 10 seconds and then get boring!

It’s going to take an enormous amount of convincing before I accept that Crazy Quilt is real. No one could possibly invent a villan like that outside of a Will Ferrel movie.


tristan says:

Scarface, Clayface, and the Mad Hatter would all be pretty badass in my opinion.
Especially the Mad Hatter… i mean, it would be so cool if he teamed up with the Riddler or something in the next one. complete and utter chaos.


Cinexcellence says:

Having not read any Batman comics, Film Freak sounds pretty neat. :)


Justin Watts says:

I dunno dude, looks like some pretty cool projects to me.

JT
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D.B. says:

How did you forget Calendar Man?


Tobes says:

I disagree with the inclusion of Scarface/Ventriloquist on this list - I think the character could be a great psychological mystery element in a movie (clearly a Nolan fave) and if written properly (keeping with the psyche of the character) could totally be a realistic and formidable enemy in the batman universe.


jfz says:

I thought “Film Freak” was Keith Ledger! (Or was it the other way around?)


Tim says:

I was just thinking about the calculator, and then thought about Laos (not sure if thats how his name is spelled), but he kind of seems like, if they were to ever write the Calculator into a movie, a likely candidate. I may be blowing smoke, but he did reassure us every other line that he was good at calculations.


G says:

The Calculator has been listed to appear amongst the D-List villains in Supermax/Green Arrow


kaleesh says:

The world shall shake before the awesomenss of “The Calculator”. He will be joined by “The Thermodynamics Textbook”, “The Liquid Paper” and his ladyfriend “The Pink Highlighter”!!!


John says:

Mostly right, but I disagree with two of them. Both Scarface/Ventriloquist and Mad Hatter have exactly the right kind of psychosis for Batman movies.


Nurd6 says:

I cannot believe you forgot the magic that was Solomon Grundy !!!!


Pat says:

You know, the animated series actually did some funny stuff with Scarface eventually. But yeah, terrible character.

Not all of these (eg, Clayface) are bad characters, but you’re right, they wouldn’t work in Nolan’s films. Though I could see Mad Hatter working with a re-imagining - he might even be better than the Riddler. Or maybe it’s just my hatred of Jim Carrey in BF talking.


F U says:

F U
The clayface episodes of Batman: The Animated Series were some of the BEST EVER


Smoggo says:

actually…killer croc appears in the gotham nights DVD….and that is set in the nolanverse….croc is a pretty cool henchman of scarecrow (who i thought would have been a terrible film villian until Batman Begins)


Tom says:

What about King Tut from the 1960s series, that guy majorly sucked. Or that guy who used eggs all the time, Eggman? And Mr. Freeze, that guy sucked the most. BANE should be awesome. Also, the villain from the Sword of Azriel, he could be made interesting.


Calculatorrulez says:

Calculator gets started in Dark Knight!!
Lau repeatedly said “Im good with calculations.”
Now we know whats in store for batman 3! lol


Jeremy says:

How can you forget Egghead from the original series? He was just a bald man with a big head!


BeastMaster says:

What about Egghead?
http://www.yayboo.com/vote/Movies-TV/Best_Batman_Supervillain


superbrad says:

Calculator actually had a pretty big part in the Villians United storyline, and he certainly wasn’t as lame as he once was.

he also ditched the costume though.


Stevie Goots says:

If you only used the original character and barred re-writes then the Joker character would be off-limits, too.


Scott says:

Superman should be the next villain in a Batman movie.


Jules says:

What about Luka Magnotta?


Batman Villains says:

Well .. Clayface looks cool … :)


Adam Sweeney says:

I agree with F U that Clayface’s episodes on the Animated Series were money. But it’d be hard to justify him being more than another Sandman, like Robert said.

Could we get Mark McGwire to play the role of Bane? Have they banned steroids in Hollywood films yet?


TheDarkArts says:

I think Killer Croc is in Batman: Gotham Knight Animated Short films DVD set in the the Nolanverse Batman specifically in the time between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Check out the Gotham Knight Official Site. The DVD is out where i live but i didn’t buy it yet.


zsasz says:

zsasz would be perfect in the new nolan versions, the comic arkham asylum was genius, such a dark and disturbing killer. i believe he did make a slight appearance in begins, but that sucked..not only did he not look even slightly right, but he just wasnt the same twisted, manic murderer.


Batmanblogged.blogspot.com says:

I am not sure if this guy makes an appearance in the comics but King Tut from the 60’s show would be an awful villain. Frankly, I would like to take any villain from the 60’s show and put them in the Nolanverse.

I could just see the Joker, plotting to keep the kids out of school by replacing the milk with coins and money in the vending machine. Thereby making the children think crime is the easy life. (I don’t fully understand the logic but this is an episode plot in the first season.) Then I could see Nolan’s Dark knight Batman beating this ridiculous Joker senseless…or laughing at him.


Z says:

The current incarnation of the calculator would actually be a great fit for the Nolanverse. He’s ditched the costume, and works as a pure information broker now–$1000/question.


Wilson says:

Stevie Goots says:

July 18th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

“If you only used the original character and barred re-writes then the Joker character would be off-limits, too”.

I’m not sure I get your entire meaning but I thought Ledger performed wonderfully as the Joker. There were so many references to “The Killing Joke” and “The Long Halloween” that I actually felt it was THE Joker brought to life.

But thats just my opinion. :p


dmarrow says:

“I VOTE FOR TIA DALMA FOR POISON IVY…SHE IS A GREAT CHARACTER ACTRESS. JUST IMAGINE HER GREAT ACTING WITH HER CHOCOLATE SKIN AND DREADS OR BRAIDS WITH VINE AND FLOWER TATTOOS EVERYWHERE…WITH HER DOUGHY EYES TELLING BATMAN THAT SHE IS SAVING THE EARTH…from people like bruce wayne…. see there is a method to my madness

VOTE TIA DALMA FOR POISON IVY”
(a different blog with good points)

.i totally agre with Naomi Harris as poison ivy.she would be great and it would add diversity. she was scary as hell in pirates and given nolans input she could be great they could change ivy around. and i agree with the tattoes which could symbolize her obsession with plants seeing how in today would people get tattoes for reasons. but these markings could be covered when she is isley. but adding he whole cr8z environment-al chick would fit into nolans world and having giving her poison in which she uses on anyone in the way of her cause would be kick *** if done right. the poison could cause demonic illusions of ilsey being poinson ivy with the whole plant control going on but not really happening. or maybe she could get her plant powers[which i would really hope for] without being silly. but i think Naomi Harris would be great instead of jolie im tires of seeing her.let her raise her kids.

I VOTE NAOMI HARRIS.
anyone who feels the same way. spread the word.
you never know what could happen.


Tina says:

I wan to see Megan Fox as the next villian in Batman!

Tina

http://www.ekhichdi.com/gallery/some-unseen-pics-of-megan-fox


Wally says:

For the third Dark Knight movie, i believe Black Mask/Black Skull should be the new villain to challenge Batman with Harvey Two-Face. He’s in the comics as a mob boss with extreme underworld powers, perfect to take over from the Falcone and Maroni families that was taken down by Batman and the authorities in the ‘Dark Knight’. He is the prince of the Sironis family who had a grudge on Thomas Wayne before he died. He grew up to be a crime lord and raise the crime problem once again in Gotham. He’s slim, tall, wears a pin stripe suit with a black skull mask. Two perfect actors to play his role are Gerard Butler or Vinnie Jones.


NickNine says:

Actually the Calculator may have been in the Dark Knight movie but wasnt really a big villain. Notice that the guy from Hong Kong says he is good at calculating. The Joker Thug that Harvey Dent kidnaps also seems like a good Mad Hatter.


Liz says:

“Superman should be the next villain in a Batman movie.”

AGREED.


Fenux says:

I’ve heard rumor that Jonny Depp may be the new Riddler… that or my brother was just talking crap.


T O R M E N T says:

“Here are some of the worst offenders in Batman’s rogues gallery - all of whom have been judged guilty of being ridiculous. The order is loosely descending, though its hard to sort dog crap into different piles based on beauty.”

– I laughed like a pig on that. Good one.

As for the list, well…. I dunno, Man-Bat and Ventriloquist seems interesting and worthy for a big-screen adaptation but the Man Bat in ‘Nolanverse’ just doesn’t fit. Ventriloquist’s a small possibility though… and god all mighty what on earth is The Calculator? What… he ah… he forces you to memorize your tables and takes pop-quizes in random order? And here i thought i was DONE with Maths Syllabus B!!!

@ Tina: Fox in Batman, it’d sure as hell tick off the Transformers fans. But I’d like seeing her anywhere.


Mr. Rev says:

Clayface is tight, you must be kidding

YOU KNow who they should have………….Bang….now that fool is sick…..have me terrorize the city because batman is gone and put the gotham police out of work with his mad crazy strength.


Mecha Mummy says:

You actually got a picture of the wrong Film Freak. There have been two; Burt Weston who was a complete twit, and Edison, the one pictured, who is actually pretty great. Not someone I’d want to see in a Nolan film any time soon, but there’s something truly wonderful about a character who shoots his own *friend* in the face for saying he liked “Easy Rider.”


Taiya says:

Cant agree with you more on that. the only way the hatter will make it into a movie is if he starts forcing random people to commit suicide or kill. Man bat is off kilter with the nolan version, making him a villain in a fictional comic book in the batman world is more realistic. Never even heard of film freak, sounds like a deranged son of a famous actor. Kid = villain = horrible. agreed there. Clayface does imitate sandman huh? no wonder i dont like him as a villain. The vantriliquest is rather sucky and so is that odd ten eye dude, along side a human calculator. Who is he supposed to scare math-enept school children? as for Bane, his begining is so far fetched from normalicy its sad.


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