Comments on: Commentary: Can Hollywood Really Afford Another Strike? http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php A Website About Movies Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: corymac http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-121261 corymac Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:05:48 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-121261 The AMPTP is feeling their oats after their success against the WGA, and rightfully so. As long as they have reality shows and game shows, they are very well-positioned against those who work on scripted shows. In the end, it all comes down to simple numbers: Scripted shows are, at best, performing only as well as reality/game shows. At worst, they're not performing as well. Think of the big shows of today that EVERYONE talks about when they are on: Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, Survivor, The Hills, So You Think You Can Dance, Amazing Race, etc. Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI might make it in there, only occasionally. As long as scripted shows have consistently lack-luster numbers in terms of viewership, those who work on those shows are in are not in a very good position to bargain. The answer for Hollywood is simple: CREATE BETTER SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH, AND YOU WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!!! It's not rocket-science. The AMPTP is feeling their oats after their success against the WGA, and rightfully so. As long as they have reality shows and game shows, they are very well-positioned against those who work on scripted shows. In the end, it all comes down to simple numbers: Scripted shows are, at best, performing only as well as reality/game shows. At worst, they're not performing as well. Think of the big shows of today that EVERYONE talks about when they are on: Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, Survivor, The Hills, So You Think You Can Dance, Amazing Race, etc. Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI might make it in there, only occasionally. As long as scripted shows have consistently lack-luster numbers in terms of viewership, those who work on those shows are in are not in a very good position to bargain. The answer for Hollywood is simple: CREATE BETTER SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH, AND YOU WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!!! It's not rocket-science.

]]> By: corymac http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210856 corymac Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:05:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210856 The AMPTP is feeling their oats after their success against the WGA, and rightfully so. As long as they have reality shows and game shows, they are very well-positioned against those who work on scripted shows. In the end, it all comes down to simple numbers: Scripted shows are, at best, performing only as well as reality/game shows. At worst, they're not performing as well. Think of the big shows of today that EVERYONE talks about when they are on: Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, Survivor, The Hills, So You Think You Can Dance, Amazing Race, etc. Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI might make it in there, only occasionally. As long as scripted shows have consistently lack-luster numbers in terms of viewership, those who work on those shows are in are not in a very good position to bargain. The answer for Hollywood is simple: CREATE BETTER SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH, AND YOU WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!!! It's not rocket-science. The AMPTP is feeling their oats after their success against the WGA, and rightfully so. As long as they have reality shows and game shows, they are very well-positioned against those who work on scripted shows. In the end, it all comes down to simple numbers: Scripted shows are, at best, performing only as well as reality/game shows. At worst, they're not performing as well. Think of the big shows of today that EVERYONE talks about when they are on: Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, Survivor, The Hills, So You Think You Can Dance, Amazing Race, etc. Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, and CSI might make it in there, only occasionally. As long as scripted shows have consistently lack-luster numbers in terms of viewership, those who work on those shows are in are not in a very good position to bargain. The answer for Hollywood is simple: CREATE BETTER SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO WATCH, AND YOU WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GET WHAT YOU WANT!!! It's not rocket-science.

]]> By: 790 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-121062 790 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:45:29 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-121062 If the actors strike I'll be sending you comments from Kinkos..... If the actors strike I’ll be sending you comments from Kinkos…..

]]> By: 790 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210855 790 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:45:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210855 If the actors strike I'll be sending you comments from Kinkos..... If the actors strike I’ll be sending you comments from Kinkos…..

]]> By: Narc http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-121010 Narc Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:32:59 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-121010 Hollywood is runned by STUPID PEOPLE!!!! Hollywood is runned by STUPID PEOPLE!!!!

]]> By: Narc http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210854 Narc Mon, 24 Nov 2008 11:32:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210854 Hollywood is runned by STUPID PEOPLE!!!! Hollywood is runned by STUPID PEOPLE!!!!

]]> By: Aleric http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-120964 Aleric Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:29:02 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-120964 Yeah, after all look at how the strikes have helped Ford, GM and Chrysler. Yeah, after all look at how the strikes have helped Ford, GM and Chrysler.

]]> By: Aleric http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210853 Aleric Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:29:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210853 Yeah, after all look at how the strikes have helped Ford, GM and Chrysler. Yeah, after all look at how the strikes have helped Ford, GM and Chrysler.

]]> By: hollywoodland http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-120899 hollywoodland Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:42:02 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-120899 Vote NO! During the Writers Guild strike, many small businesses, like hair dressers, make-up artists, personal assistants, restaurants, parking facilities, etc., were forced to close down. They never came back and I don't think Hollywood ever quite recovered. I agree with Robin's understanding that SAG need to protect its membership, but this is not the time to make a bad national situation worse. Vote NO! During the Writers Guild strike, many small businesses, like hair dressers, make-up artists, personal assistants, restaurants, parking facilities, etc., were forced to close down. They never came back and I don't think Hollywood ever quite recovered.
I agree with Robin's understanding that SAG need to protect its membership, but this is not the time to make a bad national situation worse.

]]> By: hollywoodland http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210852 hollywoodland Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:42:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210852 Vote NO! During the Writers Guild strike, many small businesses, like hair dressers, make-up artists, personal assistants, restaurants, parking facilities, etc., were forced to close down. They never came back and I don't think Hollywood ever quite recovered. I agree with Robin's understanding that SAG need to protect its membership, but this is not the time to make a bad national situation worse. Vote NO! During the Writers Guild strike, many small businesses, like hair dressers, make-up artists, personal assistants, restaurants, parking facilities, etc., were forced to close down. They never came back and I don't think Hollywood ever quite recovered.
I agree with Robin's understanding that SAG need to protect its membership, but this is not the time to make a bad national situation worse.

]]> By: Anti-Strike http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-120855 Anti-Strike Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:32:50 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-120855 PLEASE sign and say no to a strike: <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.html " target="_blank">http://www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.ht...</a> Pass it on as well. None of us can afford this! And by "us" I mean all of us. Actors, crew members, producers, associated industries, and the audience! PLEASE sign and say no to a strike:

http://www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.ht…

Pass it on as well. None of us can afford this! And by "us" I mean all of us. Actors, crew members, producers, associated industries, and the audience!

]]> By: Anti-Strike http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210849 Anti-Strike Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:32:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210849 PLEASE sign and say no to a strike: <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.ht...</a> Pass it on as well. None of us can afford this! And by "us" I mean all of us. Actors, crew members, producers, associated industries, and the audience! PLEASE sign and say no to a strike:

http://www.petitiononline.com/DealNow/petition.ht…

Pass it on as well. None of us can afford this! And by "us" I mean all of us. Actors, crew members, producers, associated industries, and the audience!

]]> By: Robin http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-120889 Robin Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:10:29 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-120889 As a member of SAG I understand the need for the union to protect the membership and not to allow the producers to take advantage of a poor economy to get concessions. However, to me, a strike at this time would be a disaster to too many people who depend on jobs from productions that would be shut down. The people on the production side, catering, etc, who would really take a hit. The union is dealing with internet only productions and trying to extend their reach to that area which is reasonable. But, again, a strike at this time is really not an acceptable bargaining tool in my opinion. As a member of SAG I understand the need for the union to protect the membership and not to allow the producers to take advantage of a poor economy to get concessions.
However, to me, a strike at this time would be a disaster to too many people who depend on jobs from productions that would be shut down. The people on the production side, catering, etc, who would really take a hit.
The union is dealing with internet only productions and trying to extend their reach to that area which is reasonable. But, again, a strike at this time is really not an acceptable bargaining tool in my opinion.

]]> By: Robin http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210851 Robin Sun, 23 Nov 2008 05:10:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210851 As a member of SAG I understand the need for the union to protect the membership and not to allow the producers to take advantage of a poor economy to get concessions. However, to me, a strike at this time would be a disaster to too many people who depend on jobs from productions that would be shut down. The people on the production side, catering, etc, who would really take a hit. The union is dealing with internet only productions and trying to extend their reach to that area which is reasonable. But, again, a strike at this time is really not an acceptable bargaining tool in my opinion. As a member of SAG I understand the need for the union to protect the membership and not to allow the producers to take advantage of a poor economy to get concessions.
However, to me, a strike at this time would be a disaster to too many people who depend on jobs from productions that would be shut down. The people on the production side, catering, etc, who would really take a hit.
The union is dealing with internet only productions and trying to extend their reach to that area which is reasonable. But, again, a strike at this time is really not an acceptable bargaining tool in my opinion.

]]> By: WRDthree http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-120883 WRDthree Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:03:15 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-120883 For every millionaire that the union represents, there are probably 100 people whose yearly incomes would be considered "average." This is a union trying to protect its members; not despite economic crisis, but because of it. Granted, a strike at this time would be horrible, but I don't think what the union is asking for is too ridiculous. They are trying to protect their members from being exploited. If anyone wants to point a finger, you can do so at those large conglomerates who own the studios and production houses to give these people their fair share. For every millionaire that the union represents, there are probably 100 people whose yearly incomes would be considered "average." This is a union trying to protect its members; not despite economic crisis, but because of it. Granted, a strike at this time would be horrible, but I don't think what the union is asking for is too ridiculous. They are trying to protect their members from being exploited.

If anyone wants to point a finger, you can do so at those large conglomerates who own the studios and production houses to give these people their fair share.

]]> By: WRDthree http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210850 WRDthree Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:03:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210850 For every millionaire that the union represents, there are probably 100 people whose yearly incomes would be considered "average." This is a union trying to protect its members; not despite economic crisis, but because of it. Granted, a strike at this time would be horrible, but I don't think what the union is asking for is too ridiculous. They are trying to protect their members from being exploited. If anyone wants to point a finger, you can do so at those large conglomerates who own the studios and production houses to give these people their fair share. For every millionaire that the union represents, there are probably 100 people whose yearly incomes would be considered "average." This is a union trying to protect its members; not despite economic crisis, but because of it. Granted, a strike at this time would be horrible, but I don't think what the union is asking for is too ridiculous. They are trying to protect their members from being exploited.

If anyone wants to point a finger, you can do so at those large conglomerates who own the studios and production houses to give these people their fair share.

]]> By: andy http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-120843 andy Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:53:58 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-120843 Yeah, talk about a horrific idea. I really don't think they're going to get a lot of sympathy out of just about everyone else in the country. My dad is a highly educated man who is completely unable to find a job because he happened to specialize in manufacturing engineering. He's an incredibly hard working, educated man who has done everything in his power to find work. And actors are looking for MORE?!?! I'll play the 80 year old man and say 'they should be damn happy they have jobs!!!' And honestly, this may be lame...but we need that entertainment right now. Even though I don't watch a ton of TV, the writer's strike definitely put a hole in my fun last year...I missed some of my favorite shows. I like that feeling of thinking...oh sweet, a new 'office' will be on the Tivo right now. Right now, it's those little joys that pick you up here and there. Yeah, talk about a horrific idea.

I really don't think they're going to get a lot of sympathy out of just about everyone else in the country. My dad is a highly educated man who is completely unable to find a job because he happened to specialize in manufacturing engineering. He's an incredibly hard working, educated man who has done everything in his power to find work. And actors are looking for MORE?!?! I'll play the 80 year old man and say 'they should be damn happy they have jobs!!!'

And honestly, this may be lame…but we need that entertainment right now. Even though I don't watch a ton of TV, the writer's strike definitely put a hole in my fun last year…I missed some of my favorite shows. I like that feeling of thinking…oh sweet, a new 'office' will be on the Tivo right now. Right now, it's those little joys that pick you up here and there.

]]> By: andy http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/sag-wants-a-strike.php/comment-page-1#comment-210848 andy Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:53:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=23562#comment-210848 Yeah, talk about a horrific idea. I really don't think they're going to get a lot of sympathy out of just about everyone else in the country. My dad is a highly educated man who is completely unable to find a job because he happened to specialize in manufacturing engineering. He's an incredibly hard working, educated man who has done everything in his power to find work. And actors are looking for MORE?!?! I'll play the 80 year old man and say 'they should be damn happy they have jobs!!!' And honestly, this may be lame...but we need that entertainment right now. Even though I don't watch a ton of TV, the writer's strike definitely put a hole in my fun last year...I missed some of my favorite shows. I like that feeling of thinking...oh sweet, a new 'office' will be on the Tivo right now. Right now, it's those little joys that pick you up here and there. Yeah, talk about a horrific idea.

I really don't think they're going to get a lot of sympathy out of just about everyone else in the country. My dad is a highly educated man who is completely unable to find a job because he happened to specialize in manufacturing engineering. He's an incredibly hard working, educated man who has done everything in his power to find work. And actors are looking for MORE?!?! I'll play the 80 year old man and say 'they should be damn happy they have jobs!!!'

And honestly, this may be lame…but we need that entertainment right now. Even though I don't watch a ton of TV, the writer's strike definitely put a hole in my fun last year…I missed some of my favorite shows. I like that feeling of thinking…oh sweet, a new 'office' will be on the Tivo right now. Right now, it's those little joys that pick you up here and there.

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