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	<title>Comments on: Orci and Kurtzman Respond to Claims of Racism in &#8216;Transformers 2&#8242;</title>
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		<title>By: Nigger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i ate a nigger once</description>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurtzman and Orci are hacks, but they don&#039;t strike me as bigots. I believe them when they dump this controversy on Bay&#039;s lap. Of course, they are still responsible for the rest of the script, which sucks pretty royally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurtzman and Orci are hacks, but they don&#39;t strike me as bigots. I believe them when they dump this controversy on Bay&#39;s lap. Of course, they are still responsible for the rest of the script, which sucks pretty royally.</p>
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		<title>By: Rukkai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rukkai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Trek could have been way, way, waaaay worse. I was pleasantly surprised at the direction they took with it, actually. It was different, and it gave us more to look for than what the series gave us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I do agree that if you are a writer, and you write those kinds of characters, you obviously know what you&#039;re putting into it. Changing one thing, like the gold tooth on Bay&#039;s part, does not necessarily change a whole character. Gold tooth or not, those robots were godawful and just bad for the movie in general, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek could have been way, way, waaaay worse. I was pleasantly surprised at the direction they took with it, actually. It was different, and it gave us more to look for than what the series gave us.</p>
<p>But I do agree that if you are a writer, and you write those kinds of characters, you obviously know what you&#39;re putting into it. Changing one thing, like the gold tooth on Bay&#39;s part, does not necessarily change a whole character. Gold tooth or not, those robots were godawful and just bad for the movie in general, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Rukkai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rukkai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Star Trek could have been way, way, waaaay worse. I was pleasantly surprised at the direction they took with it, actually. It was different, and it gave us more to look for than what the series gave us.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I do agree that if you are a writer, and you write those kinds of characters, you obviously know what you&#039;re putting into it. Changing one thing, like the gold tooth on Bay&#039;s part, does not necessarily change a whole character. Gold tooth or not, those robots were godawful and just bad for the movie in general, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star Trek could have been way, way, waaaay worse. I was pleasantly surprised at the direction they took with it, actually. It was different, and it gave us more to look for than what the series gave us.</p>
<p>But I do agree that if you are a writer, and you write those kinds of characters, you obviously know what you&#39;re putting into it. Changing one thing, like the gold tooth on Bay&#39;s part, does not necessarily change a whole character. Gold tooth or not, those robots were godawful and just bad for the movie in general, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: yintagh</title>
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		<dc:creator>yintagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Orci Kurtzman and now Kruger couldn&#039;t write their way out of  tinkle-soaked bag.&lt;br&gt;And now those douchebags are trying to play innocents to this horrid bodge of a movie?&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t get me started on the way they screwed up Star Trek.&lt;br&gt;Slaggin&#039; no-talent hacks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Orci Kurtzman and now Kruger couldn&#39;t write their way out of  tinkle-soaked bag.<br />And now those douchebags are trying to play innocents to this horrid bodge of a movie?<br />Don&#39;t get me started on the way they screwed up Star Trek.<br />Slaggin&#39; no-talent hacks!</p>
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		<title>By: EEW</title>
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		<dc:creator>EEW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K &amp; O can say/write what they like. But they also had a little stereotype problem in THE PROPOSAL. As if decimation of a culture was not enough, K&amp;O have Betty Davis whooping it up Native American-style by way of out-of-touch writers in full headdress around a boom box. Yes, there is plenty to complain about with Michael Bay. PLENTY. But prior to hooking up with K&amp;O he did not have that level of racism in his previous films. K&amp;O should perhaps take some responsibility for their writing. But once again they will probably just blame the director.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K &amp; O can say/write what they like. But they also had a little stereotype problem in THE PROPOSAL. As if decimation of a culture was not enough, K&amp;O have Betty Davis whooping it up Native American-style by way of out-of-touch writers in full headdress around a boom box. Yes, there is plenty to complain about with Michael Bay. PLENTY. But prior to hooking up with K&amp;O he did not have that level of racism in his previous films. K&amp;O should perhaps take some responsibility for their writing. But once again they will probably just blame the director.</p>
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		<title>By: Imdopetastic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imdopetastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also belive its some what of ingnorance but also consider the only robot to die in the first film was also protrade black. Which goes back to saying that they always kill off the black ppl in movies and I&#039;m starting to see a history coming to questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also belive its some what of ingnorance but also consider the only robot to die in the first film was also protrade black. Which goes back to saying that they always kill off the black ppl in movies and I&#39;m starting to see a history coming to questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Day-Dae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Day-Dae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first Transformers would have been perfect for me if it was not for the car salesman calling his mother a mammy and bit@#$. Then later on the hacker yelled at his  grandmother over and over again. There was no reason for that characterization. Script wise or whatever. I kept wondering what was that about. That was my fault for ignoring it.

So to see what Michael did in the movie really stopped me short. I couldn&#039;t really enjoy the movie after that. I&#039;m not interested in turning off my mind to completely  be entertained. I don&#039;t care if he has a real life friend like this, doesn&#039;t mean I want to pay my money to see it.  Everybody doesn&#039;t want to grow into a Pimp Mike.  The twin did not make the movie. If they were removed nothing would be missed. 

In the Entertainment Weekly article with Megan Fox speaking about this movie she was defensive. She warned this was not a smart person movie.  Star Trek, brought intelligence back as true sexiness. I will see that sequel.  I can&#039;t say that about the next Transformers. Seems like I can wait for it to be on cable. This movie was not a turn on. Eye Candy doesn&#039;t mean anything if you don&#039;t have the mood.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first Transformers would have been perfect for me if it was not for the car salesman calling his mother a mammy and bit@#$. Then later on the hacker yelled at his  grandmother over and over again. There was no reason for that characterization. Script wise or whatever. I kept wondering what was that about. That was my fault for ignoring it.</p>
<p>So to see what Michael did in the movie really stopped me short. I couldn&#8217;t really enjoy the movie after that. I&#8217;m not interested in turning off my mind to completely  be entertained. I don&#8217;t care if he has a real life friend like this, doesn&#8217;t mean I want to pay my money to see it.  Everybody doesn&#8217;t want to grow into a Pimp Mike.  The twin did not make the movie. If they were removed nothing would be missed. </p>
<p>In the Entertainment Weekly article with Megan Fox speaking about this movie she was defensive. She warned this was not a smart person movie.  Star Trek, brought intelligence back as true sexiness. I will see that sequel.  I can&#8217;t say that about the next Transformers. Seems like I can wait for it to be on cable. This movie was not a turn on. Eye Candy doesn&#8217;t mean anything if you don&#8217;t have the mood.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m very offended by Master P., Juvenile, et al. Everyone should be offended by that foolishness, Black or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m very offended by Master P., Juvenile, et al. Everyone should be offended by that foolishness, Black or not.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Black woman, I have to disagree with the &#039;racism&#039; idea here. Honestly, if you learned everything you needed to know about language and personalities from the internet, and you chose Black people, face it, you&#039;d sound like a damn idiot, too. Have you seen BET.com? BlackPlanet.com? Any of the websites we supposedly frequent? 

We played ourselves. If we don&#039;t want to be portrayed this way, perhaps we should stop behaving this way. 

And don&#039;t forget, Tyrese was in the films, too, and conducted himself with intelligence and decorum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Black woman, I have to disagree with the &#8216;racism&#8217; idea here. Honestly, if you learned everything you needed to know about language and personalities from the internet, and you chose Black people, face it, you&#8217;d sound like a damn idiot, too. Have you seen BET.com? BlackPlanet.com? Any of the websites we supposedly frequent? </p>
<p>We played ourselves. If we don&#8217;t want to be portrayed this way, perhaps we should stop behaving this way. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget, Tyrese was in the films, too, and conducted himself with intelligence and decorum.</p>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the stereotypes about black people are that they are annoying and dumb, which is why alot of people were offended by the characters.  I know that no one is really like that, but its that fact that some people believe these stereotypes that gets me.  Michael Bay is wrong for making them like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the stereotypes about black people are that they are annoying and dumb, which is why alot of people were offended by the characters.  I know that no one is really like that, but its that fact that some people believe these stereotypes that gets me.  Michael Bay is wrong for making them like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Short</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefan Short</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole thing is bothering me. I mean seriously people. People now a days are just looking for something to be offended by. I saw the movie. I thought the whole movie was awesome. I thought mudflaps and skids were a valuable addition to the movie adding comic relief. I wanna know who the first person to come up with this complaint is. I guarantee someone from the NAACP or something like that. I mean come on people, at least 80 percent of people from every race live up to their stereotypes. I wonder how many people will attempt to sue the film studio. People need to grow up and realize there is more to life then allowing something as small and pitiful as a stereotype to offend you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thing is bothering me. I mean seriously people. People now a days are just looking for something to be offended by. I saw the movie. I thought the whole movie was awesome. I thought mudflaps and skids were a valuable addition to the movie adding comic relief. I wanna know who the first person to come up with this complaint is. I guarantee someone from the NAACP or something like that. I mean come on people, at least 80 percent of people from every race live up to their stereotypes. I wonder how many people will attempt to sue the film studio. People need to grow up and realize there is more to life then allowing something as small and pitiful as a stereotype to offend you.</p>
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		<title>By: Winona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So having a gold tooth makes you a black person. Right. Great logic. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So having a gold tooth makes you a black person. Right. Great logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Steen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labeling these characters as &#039;racially&#039; offensive is to ignore the seedier aspects of rap culture. That is unless anyone currently offended was also miffed by Master P, Juvenile, or anyother persona celebrating ignorance and violence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labeling these characters as &#8216;racially&#8217; offensive is to ignore the seedier aspects of rap culture. That is unless anyone currently offended was also miffed by Master P, Juvenile, or anyother persona celebrating ignorance and violence.</p>
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		<title>By: Octoberist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Octoberist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that they&#039;re racist, but they&#039;re absoultely useless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve said it before: They should have had Ironhide and Rachet, (two characters we already know) in their place during the Egypt scenes. Other than that, they didn&#039;t do a whole lot until the last act. Besides making stupid one liners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s not that they&#39;re racist, but they&#39;re absoultely useless.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve said it before: They should have had Ironhide and Rachet, (two characters we already know) in their place during the Egypt scenes. Other than that, they didn&#39;t do a whole lot until the last act. Besides making stupid one liners.</p>
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		<title>By: sankofa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sankofa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Figures that the one set of characters Michael Bay chooses to imbue with any personality ends up biting him in the ass with a gold tooth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Figures that the one set of characters Michael Bay chooses to imbue with any personality ends up biting him in the ass with a gold tooth.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another example of how Micheal Bay has no clue what the general public or even his audiance want in a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another example of how Micheal Bay has no clue what the general public or even his audiance want in a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kava</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If comedians taught us anything it&#039;s that stereotypes are now a staple of society, you can watch the Chappelle show and see that...but I do have a problem with the names of the robots Skids and Mudflaps, that&#039;s getting a little to blatant, and the gold tooth, if that was Bay&#039;s idea, bad call but oh well..movie was still cool cause Meghan Fox is hot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If comedians taught us anything it&#8217;s that stereotypes are now a staple of society, you can watch the Chappelle show and see that&#8230;but I do have a problem with the names of the robots Skids and Mudflaps, that&#8217;s getting a little to blatant, and the gold tooth, if that was Bay&#8217;s idea, bad call but oh well..movie was still cool cause Meghan Fox is hot</p>
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		<title>By: nicky_cavella</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicky_cavella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont see how its racist, these 2 are pure comic relief, and why did they have to use the BLACK thing in the first place. just cause one of them has gold teeth and talk in slang they end up sayin its representing a black person. i think the ones that are sayin its racist are the racist themselves...homie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont see how its racist, these 2 are pure comic relief, and why did they have to use the BLACK thing in the first place. just cause one of them has gold teeth and talk in slang they end up sayin its representing a black person. i think the ones that are sayin its racist are the racist themselves&#8230;homie</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Rockswell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan Rockswell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is everyone acting so suprised that Michael Bay or the writers would do anything different in this movie?  Dont you remember Jazz in the 1st one?  Same exact thing, they think their going to relate to kids or appeal to a demographic but all they end up doing is making themselves look like a$$h0l3$.  It&#039;s not racism, it&#039;s just stupidity at it&#039;s finest.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone acting so suprised that Michael Bay or the writers would do anything different in this movie?  Dont you remember Jazz in the 1st one?  Same exact thing, they think their going to relate to kids or appeal to a demographic but all they end up doing is making themselves look like a$$h0l3$.  It&#8217;s not racism, it&#8217;s just stupidity at it&#8217;s finest.</p>
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