George Lucas Still Feeling Around for His Artifact

Posted by Josh Radde (josh@filmschoolrejects.com) on December 4, 2008

ComingSoon.net got all up in George Lucas’s grill recently and asked him a few questions. Lucas, perhaps best known as the producer of Howard the Duck and Ewok Adventure, answered a few questions about a follow-up to this summer’s box office smash Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

Coming Soon asked Lucas if a fifth installment was, in fact, coming. Lucas replied, “Yes – we’re looking for a “MacGuffin,” which is an object that he goes after. They’re very hard to come by!”

Are they? A MacGuffin, for those who missed Film 101 (a class Lucas passed with a C-), is a plot device that propels a plot forward. The item itself is not so important, but what’s necessary is that it pushes the conflict between the characters. For instance, the bag of money in Psycho is what makes Janet Leigh’s character go on the run, thus landing her at the Bates Motel. The suitcase in Pulp Fiction is a classic MacGuffin because Tarantino never actually alludes to what’s inside (though many theories exist, including the possibility that it may be Ving Rhame’s soul). The Indiana Jones movies have been good at constructing plot devices such as the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders and the Holy Grail in Last Crusade. However, those are plot devices that fail to be MacGuffins, and it’s always bugged me that Lucas has never understood the definition.

The term itself was described wonderfully by Alfred Hitchcock (or Alfred Hancock as some of FSR’s talkbackers have argued) in a story about two men on a train:

One man says, ‘What’s that package up there in the baggage rack?’ And the other answers, ‘Oh that’s a MacGuffin.’ The first one asks, ‘What’s a MacGuffin?’ ‘Well,’ the other man says, ‘It’s an apparatus for trapping lions in the Scottish Highlands.’ The first man says, ‘But there are no lions in the Scottish Highlands,’ and the other one answers ‘Well, then that’s no MacGuffin!’ So you see, a MacGuffin is nothing at all.

Hitchcock thought that the audience should care about the characters, not the MacGuffin, whereas Lucas has said “the audience should care about it almost as much as the dueling heroes and villains on-screen.” So in essence he means that the Crystal Skull was as much a character in the latest Indy movie as Shia LeBeouf.

I guess what I’m trying to say is this: WE DON’T CARE ABOUT THE ARTIFACT! WE CARE ABOUT INDY! It would serve Lucas, Speilberg, and the writers to actually devote time to character development and carefully constructed action sequences (that don’t involve douchebags swinging through trees). Indiana, Marion, and Mutt could be searching for the remnants of Jesus’ nutsack or the Reese’s Pieces bag consumed by E.T. We. Don’t. Care. Give us characters that intrigue us and you won’t be accused of raping Indiana Jones, as sirs Parker and Stone hilariously did on a recent episode of South Park.

I once saw a poster for The Phantom Menace that read “Plot Matters” which parodied the Godzilla one-sheet saying “Size Matters.” Don’t get me wrong, plot does matter; the plot device does not.


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  • Guys. Lucas doesn't get it. He hasn't gotten it since Star Wars was released and he realized people were actually listening to him. So being surprised that he has not a clue is getting to be redundent these days.
  • The guy once claimed that R2-D2 was the MacGuffin in Star Wars. He doesn't know what it is, I get that. I'm not saying I'm surprised by the statement I just want him to get his priorities straight.
  • Lol, very good analogy Ronnie.
  • Jesse
    Lucas does get it. you are all going to see indy 5 when it comes out so get off his ass already.
  • A MacGuffin is simply a plot device that motivates the characters to develop, but serves little or no significant importance to the plot. I agree that Lucas sometimes makes the MacGuffin in his stories too important. But, technically, he does know what a MacGuffin is. To reply to one of the previous comments, R2-D2 was a MacGuffin in the first Star Wars because he is the container of the Death Star information, this develops the characters as they either try to save him or destroy him. R2D2 really doesn't serve any other purpose other than that. In the rest of the movies, R2 is following around just to please the audience. Lucas just likes to make the MacGuffins in his movies more important than usual.
    In all the Indiana Jones movies, the MacGuffins are always the things that kill the villain. It's never any of the characters. It's just one of the rules he has set for the B-movie parody. Therefore, he wants to make the MacGuffin stand for something because it will ultimately start the story, but be the very thing that kills off the bad guy. Believe me, it would be amazing to see Jesus' nutsack kill the villain, but in the end, it just won't work!!
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