We just want to count.

Gross.

No, San Diego Comic Con International is not anti-female. Unfortunately, the community whose works they showcase and present largely is. There's a lot of criticism to be doled out here, but let's at least dole it out to the right people, shall we?

1. It's based on a comic….no….
2. It's a movie with a large/wide fanbase….well there's all those girls that were mentioned…

I haven't read the /film article, nor do I intend to, as what goes on in Hall H doesn't interest me much (I find it too difficult to fight for a seat in general), but I was disgusted, and, yeah, I'll even use the word “enraged” by the LA Times article. The only hope we have of preventing such tripe from being written is by calling them out on it when they do write it.

The problem is with fans of a particular franchise looking down on everyone else. And thats definately the vibe you pick up from them, a snarky “look at those dorks over there” kind of attitude you can pick up in the room. As Savagecats said: They don't respect fans that are there for other things.

That said, Twilight should have a place at any pop-culture con, but Twilight fans need to realise they're just as geeky as anyone else there, and learn to be less obnoxiously squealy.

My opinion, at least. Seriously, I heard a six year old asked Robert Pattinson to “bite her,” in reference to her neck. I dunno.

Personal opinion

I wonder, then, if the main issue isn't really about the fact that Twilighters will be flooding Hall H for a Disney panel that happens before theirs simply to save seats instead of genuinely wanting to see the Disney material. Considering they all abandoned Hall H last year after their panel (and before the Disney one started), that seems reasonable. And, it also seems reasonable that those fans saving seats will take up seats that could otherwise be taken by fans really wanting to see the Disney material.

I appreciate the clarification.

My article had nothing to do with fangirls vs. fanboys it had to do with logistics. The line that everyone points to in my article is when I refer to the non Twilight fans as “normal.” Twilighters are proud to admit they are obsessive. No other Comic Con panel in the history of Comic Con had hundreds of fans lining up in the early afternoon the day before the panel. Twilighters are proud of this. It is impossible to compete with such obsessive fandom.

The argument is not about who or what, its about logistics. If it was fanboys and Star Wars, I would have still written an article.

Hell, if you're a Twilight fan and you like other things at con and you're there to celebrate that experience, good, but in my humble opinion: screw these other vamp fan-girls and their total lack of respect for what Con is for everyone else and I genuinely hope this new Rice-esque crap finds its way into the same position that Potter has – a dull, lifeless corpse clinging on to the last strings of popular life before fading into the depths of utter obscurity.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the rest of what you wrote though. Although I think one of the main reasons /Film (a site I read and love, btw) is so anti-twilight is because, if I remember correctly, they put out a small “Is twilight bad?” sort of article and got pummeled by fans for it.

It's sort of like this: say I dis your outfit, and then you punch me in the face. So I kick back. Who's fault is it? Is it mine for starting the argument with my dis or yours for upping the ante so much in retaliation?

What is a totally valid complaint? Twilight fans specifically, and the *popular media* response to Comic Con. There is still a certain image associated with the Comic Con goer, whether that is basement-dwelling comic nerd or blue fur be-decked cosplay. It is changing slowly, I think. I hope.

Which brings me to Twilight fans. I have never been so deafened by the squeals of fans as I was when they handed out Twilight posters. I was like three booths over, with probably 200 people between me and them, and I could clearly hear them squee over the general din of the Convention Center. That is some loud fangirl glee. They're annoying. They're pushy. They don't respect fans that are there for other things. That's not anti-girl. That's anti-obnoxious fan.

But I think that we now have an interesting topic to discuss: what is the most anticipated panel at the con? Is it Avatar, the Marvel panal, or will it truly be twilight? Or maybe it's one I didn't mention.