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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Del Toro hasn&#039;t done anthing good before or since Hellboy I, I&#039;m worried he&#039;s going to absolutely destroy the Hobbit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del Toro hasn&#8217;t done anthing good before or since Hellboy I, I&#8217;m worried he&#8217;s going to absolutely destroy the Hobbit</p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is being taken from one of tolkein&#039;s writings the book called The Hobbit. and is this going to be a cartoon? cause that would be dumb.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is being taken from one of tolkein&#039;s writings the book called The Hobbit. and is this going to be a cartoon? cause that would be dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is being taken from one of tolkein&#039;s writings the book called The Hobbit. and is this going to be a cartoon? cause that would be dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is being taken from one of tolkein&#039;s writings the book called The Hobbit. and is this going to be a cartoon? cause that would be dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too, I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro and I hope he will do a wonderful job,  and they have 2 to 3 years to find what they need to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro and I hope he will do a wonderful job,  and they have 2 to 3 years to find what they need to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Ayman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too, I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro and I hope he will do a wonderful job,  and they have 2 to 3 years to find what they need to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too, I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro and I hope he will do a wonderful job,  and they have 2 to 3 years to find what they need to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Bladorthin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bladorthin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro being the director and Peter Jackson being producer, del Toro has proven that he can do both intelligent fantasy and Hollywood action, I just hope they don&#039;t add any more action scenes, as The Hobbit is well packed with them already. I&#039;m only concerned with the treatment of the book and the Middle-earth in general. Jackson did some incomprehensible changes to the storyline in the last two Lord of the Rings movies that didn&#039;t work for me so well, as they hurt the story&#039;s depth.

Now, The Tale of the Children of Húrin (In Silmarillion it was the chapter Of Túrin Turambar, and in Unfinished Tales Narn I Hîn Húrin, properly Narn I Chîn Húrin, CH being pronounced as the scottish loCH), probably would make a great movie, and it&#039;s been published in full in book form recently. It&#039;s a tragedy with no humour in it though, and no mûmak trunks to surf on. One of the saddest tales I&#039;ve ever read, but also very beautiful. I don&#039;t think any movie could do justice to Middle-earth of the first age. You&#039;d need to create Alan Lee&#039;s watercolours on screen without going too far, and still limit CG to a minimum. The various fantastic monsters that aren&#039;t humanoid in shape, like dragons, balrogs and giant spiders always need to be CG, though.

From Silmarillion, I&#039;d like to see someone try to pull of Morgoth&#039;s and Ungoliant&#039;s unholy alliance in CG... they are bound to failure. Glaurung is much easier, as you just need a huge wingless dragon (Glaurung, the father of dragons, had no wings in those ancient days). It could have been done in the 70&#039;s. Just rotoscope a live Komodo dragon at 60fps, blow it up to enormous size compared to Túrin, slow it down to 24fps, and you&#039;ve got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro being the director and Peter Jackson being producer, del Toro has proven that he can do both intelligent fantasy and Hollywood action, I just hope they don&#8217;t add any more action scenes, as The Hobbit is well packed with them already. I&#8217;m only concerned with the treatment of the book and the Middle-earth in general. Jackson did some incomprehensible changes to the storyline in the last two Lord of the Rings movies that didn&#8217;t work for me so well, as they hurt the story&#8217;s depth.</p>
<p>Now, The Tale of the Children of Húrin (In Silmarillion it was the chapter Of Túrin Turambar, and in Unfinished Tales Narn I Hîn Húrin, properly Narn I Chîn Húrin, CH being pronounced as the scottish loCH), probably would make a great movie, and it&#8217;s been published in full in book form recently. It&#8217;s a tragedy with no humour in it though, and no mûmak trunks to surf on. One of the saddest tales I&#8217;ve ever read, but also very beautiful. I don&#8217;t think any movie could do justice to Middle-earth of the first age. You&#8217;d need to create Alan Lee&#8217;s watercolours on screen without going too far, and still limit CG to a minimum. The various fantastic monsters that aren&#8217;t humanoid in shape, like dragons, balrogs and giant spiders always need to be CG, though.</p>
<p>From Silmarillion, I&#8217;d like to see someone try to pull of Morgoth&#8217;s and Ungoliant&#8217;s unholy alliance in CG&#8230; they are bound to failure. Glaurung is much easier, as you just need a huge wingless dragon (Glaurung, the father of dragons, had no wings in those ancient days). It could have been done in the 70&#8242;s. Just rotoscope a live Komodo dragon at 60fps, blow it up to enormous size compared to Túrin, slow it down to 24fps, and you&#8217;ve got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bladorthin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bladorthin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro being the director and Peter Jackson being producer, del Toro has proven that he can do both intelligent fantasy and Hollywood action, I just hope they don&#039;t add any more action scenes, as The Hobbit is well packed with them already. I&#039;m only concerned with the treatment of the book and the Middle-earth in general. Jackson did some incomprehensible changes to the storyline in the last two Lord of the Rings movies that didn&#039;t work for me so well, as they hurt the story&#039;s depth.

Now, The Tale of the Children of HÃºrin (In Silmarillion it was the chapter Of TÃºrin Turambar, and in Unfinished Tales Narn I HÃ®n HÃºrin, properly Narn I ChÃ®n HÃºrin, CH being pronounced as the scottish loCH), probably would make a great movie, and it&#039;s been published in full in book form recently. It&#039;s a tragedy with no humour in it though, and no mÃ»mak trunks to surf on. One of the saddest tales I&#039;ve ever read, but also very beautiful. I don&#039;t think any movie could do justice to Middle-earth of the first age. You&#039;d need to create Alan Lee&#039;s watercolours on screen without going too far, and still limit CG to a minimum. The various fantastic monsters that aren&#039;t humanoid in shape, like dragons, balrogs and giant spiders always need to be CG, though.

From Silmarillion, I&#039;d like to see someone try to pull of Morgoth&#039;s and Ungoliant&#039;s unholy alliance in CG... they are bound to failure. Glaurung is much easier, as you just need a huge wingless dragon (Glaurung, the father of dragons, had no wings in those ancient days). It could have been done in the 70&#039;s. Just rotoscope a live Komodo dragon at 60fps, blow it up to enormous size compared to TÃºrin, slow it down to 24fps, and you&#039;ve got it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing against Guillermo del Toro being the director and Peter Jackson being producer, del Toro has proven that he can do both intelligent fantasy and Hollywood action, I just hope they don&#8217;t add any more action scenes, as The Hobbit is well packed with them already. I&#8217;m only concerned with the treatment of the book and the Middle-earth in general. Jackson did some incomprehensible changes to the storyline in the last two Lord of the Rings movies that didn&#8217;t work for me so well, as they hurt the story&#8217;s depth.</p>
<p>Now, The Tale of the Children of HÃºrin (In Silmarillion it was the chapter Of TÃºrin Turambar, and in Unfinished Tales Narn I HÃ®n HÃºrin, properly Narn I ChÃ®n HÃºrin, CH being pronounced as the scottish loCH), probably would make a great movie, and it&#8217;s been published in full in book form recently. It&#8217;s a tragedy with no humour in it though, and no mÃ»mak trunks to surf on. One of the saddest tales I&#8217;ve ever read, but also very beautiful. I don&#8217;t think any movie could do justice to Middle-earth of the first age. You&#8217;d need to create Alan Lee&#8217;s watercolours on screen without going too far, and still limit CG to a minimum. The various fantastic monsters that aren&#8217;t humanoid in shape, like dragons, balrogs and giant spiders always need to be CG, though.</p>
<p>From Silmarillion, I&#8217;d like to see someone try to pull of Morgoth&#8217;s and Ungoliant&#8217;s unholy alliance in CG&#8230; they are bound to failure. Glaurung is much easier, as you just need a huge wingless dragon (Glaurung, the father of dragons, had no wings in those ancient days). It could have been done in the 70&#8242;s. Just rotoscope a live Komodo dragon at 60fps, blow it up to enormous size compared to TÃºrin, slow it down to 24fps, and you&#8217;ve got it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cormac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Pan’s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce 
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.

ps.. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Pan’s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr<br />
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce<br />
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.</p>
<p>ps.. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Cormac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Panâ€™s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce 
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.

ps.. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Panâ€™s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr<br />
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce<br />
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.</p>
<p>ps.. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Cormac</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-2#comment-91938</link>
		<dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Pan’s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce 
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.

ps. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Pan’s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr<br />
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce<br />
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.</p>
<p>ps. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Cormac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cormac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Panâ€™s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce 
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.

ps. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Panâ€™s Labyrinth was a fantastic movie and far better directed than lotr<br />
hopefully this directer can capture the true spirit of Tolkiens work and not produce<br />
another action based movie to please the masses who have never read the books.</p>
<p>ps. the Tolkien story that is best suited for coversion to film I believe would be Turin Turambar. Its got great characters ,love ,friendship ,betrayal ,battles, personal anguish ,great twists , and every thing else under the sun needed to make a epic fantasy movie. Also its shorter and less constricting than a normal novel, perfect for a movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Mimrekel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mimrekel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says nothing happens between the Hobbit and the Beginning of the Lord of the 
Rings?

The whole story of Dol Guldur, for example, will be told.

And as you know, if Dol Guldur is even named, &quot;old men and masters of lore will blanch 
and fall silent.&quot;

Here are some of the events that need to be recounted.   See the chronologies in the 
back of the LoTR.

These are some excerpts:

Important Dates

1000 
Saruman and Gandalf arrive in Middle-earth around this time.

1100 
The Wise (Elrond, Galadriel, Cirdan, Celeborn) discover that an evil power has built a 
stronghold at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood.

2060 
The Wise fear the power at Dol Guldur may be Sauron.

2463 
The White Council is formed. Saruman becomes the Head of the White Council.

2759 
Saruman takes up residence at Isengard.

2851 
The White Council meets. Gandalf reports that Sauron is at Dol Guldur and urges an 
attack, but Saruman overrules him. Saruman begins to desire the One Ring for himself 
and starts searching the Gladden Fields.

2939 
Saruman learns that Sauron&#039;s servants are searching the Gladden Fields for the One 
Ring.

2941 
The White Council meets. Saruman agrees to attack Dol Guldur, hoping to prevent 
Sauron from finding the Ring. The White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur.

2942 
Sauron goes in secret to Mordor.

2951 
Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor.

2953 
The White Council meets for the last time. Saruman lies to the Council, saying he has 
learned that the Ring was washed down the Anduin to the Sea. He fortifies Isengard and 
begins to spy on Gandalf and sends agents to Bree and the Shire.

2990 
Saruman may have begun cross-breeding Orcs and Men around this time.

c. 3000 
Saruman uses the palantir of Orthanc and is ensnared by Sauron and becomes a traitor 
to the Council. Saruman learns from his spies that the Rangers are guarding the Shire.

3001 
The Rangers double their guard on the Shire.

3014 
King Theoden of Rohan begins to fall under the influence of Saruman through his agent 
Grima Wormtongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says nothing happens between the Hobbit and the Beginning of the Lord of the<br />
Rings?</p>
<p>The whole story of Dol Guldur, for example, will be told.</p>
<p>And as you know, if Dol Guldur is even named, &#8220;old men and masters of lore will blanch<br />
and fall silent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here are some of the events that need to be recounted.   See the chronologies in the<br />
back of the LoTR.</p>
<p>These are some excerpts:</p>
<p>Important Dates</p>
<p>1000<br />
Saruman and Gandalf arrive in Middle-earth around this time.</p>
<p>1100<br />
The Wise (Elrond, Galadriel, Cirdan, Celeborn) discover that an evil power has built a<br />
stronghold at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood.</p>
<p>2060<br />
The Wise fear the power at Dol Guldur may be Sauron.</p>
<p>2463<br />
The White Council is formed. Saruman becomes the Head of the White Council.</p>
<p>2759<br />
Saruman takes up residence at Isengard.</p>
<p>2851<br />
The White Council meets. Gandalf reports that Sauron is at Dol Guldur and urges an<br />
attack, but Saruman overrules him. Saruman begins to desire the One Ring for himself<br />
and starts searching the Gladden Fields.</p>
<p>2939<br />
Saruman learns that Sauron&#8217;s servants are searching the Gladden Fields for the One<br />
Ring.</p>
<p>2941<br />
The White Council meets. Saruman agrees to attack Dol Guldur, hoping to prevent<br />
Sauron from finding the Ring. The White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur.</p>
<p>2942<br />
Sauron goes in secret to Mordor.</p>
<p>2951<br />
Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor.</p>
<p>2953<br />
The White Council meets for the last time. Saruman lies to the Council, saying he has<br />
learned that the Ring was washed down the Anduin to the Sea. He fortifies Isengard and<br />
begins to spy on Gandalf and sends agents to Bree and the Shire.</p>
<p>2990<br />
Saruman may have begun cross-breeding Orcs and Men around this time.</p>
<p>c. 3000<br />
Saruman uses the palantir of Orthanc and is ensnared by Sauron and becomes a traitor<br />
to the Council. Saruman learns from his spies that the Rangers are guarding the Shire.</p>
<p>3001<br />
The Rangers double their guard on the Shire.</p>
<p>3014<br />
King Theoden of Rohan begins to fall under the influence of Saruman through his agent<br />
Grima Wormtongue.</p>
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		<title>By: Mimrekel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mimrekel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says nothing happens between the Hobbit and the Beginning of the Lord of the 
Rings?

The whole story of Dol Guldur, for example, will be told.

And as you know, if Dol Guldur is even named, &quot;old men and masters of lore will blanch 
and fall silent.&quot;

Here are some of the events that need to be recounted.   See the chronologies in the 
back of the LoTR.

These are some excerpts:

Important Dates

1000 
Saruman and Gandalf arrive in Middle-earth around this time.

1100 
The Wise (Elrond, Galadriel, Cirdan, Celeborn) discover that an evil power has built a 
stronghold at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood.

2060 
The Wise fear the power at Dol Guldur may be Sauron.

2463 
The White Council is formed. Saruman becomes the Head of the White Council.

2759 
Saruman takes up residence at Isengard.

2851 
The White Council meets. Gandalf reports that Sauron is at Dol Guldur and urges an 
attack, but Saruman overrules him. Saruman begins to desire the One Ring for himself 
and starts searching the Gladden Fields.

2939 
Saruman learns that Sauron&#039;s servants are searching the Gladden Fields for the One 
Ring.

2941 
The White Council meets. Saruman agrees to attack Dol Guldur, hoping to prevent 
Sauron from finding the Ring. The White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur.

2942 
Sauron goes in secret to Mordor.

2951 
Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor.

2953 
The White Council meets for the last time. Saruman lies to the Council, saying he has 
learned that the Ring was washed down the Anduin to the Sea. He fortifies Isengard and 
begins to spy on Gandalf and sends agents to Bree and the Shire.

2990 
Saruman may have begun cross-breeding Orcs and Men around this time.

c. 3000 
Saruman uses the palantir of Orthanc and is ensnared by Sauron and becomes a traitor 
to the Council. Saruman learns from his spies that the Rangers are guarding the Shire.

3001 
The Rangers double their guard on the Shire.

3014 
King Theoden of Rohan begins to fall under the influence of Saruman through his agent 
Grima Wormtongue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says nothing happens between the Hobbit and the Beginning of the Lord of the<br />
Rings?</p>
<p>The whole story of Dol Guldur, for example, will be told.</p>
<p>And as you know, if Dol Guldur is even named, &#8220;old men and masters of lore will blanch<br />
and fall silent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Here are some of the events that need to be recounted.   See the chronologies in the<br />
back of the LoTR.</p>
<p>These are some excerpts:</p>
<p>Important Dates</p>
<p>1000<br />
Saruman and Gandalf arrive in Middle-earth around this time.</p>
<p>1100<br />
The Wise (Elrond, Galadriel, Cirdan, Celeborn) discover that an evil power has built a<br />
stronghold at Dol Guldur in Mirkwood.</p>
<p>2060<br />
The Wise fear the power at Dol Guldur may be Sauron.</p>
<p>2463<br />
The White Council is formed. Saruman becomes the Head of the White Council.</p>
<p>2759<br />
Saruman takes up residence at Isengard.</p>
<p>2851<br />
The White Council meets. Gandalf reports that Sauron is at Dol Guldur and urges an<br />
attack, but Saruman overrules him. Saruman begins to desire the One Ring for himself<br />
and starts searching the Gladden Fields.</p>
<p>2939<br />
Saruman learns that Sauron&#8217;s servants are searching the Gladden Fields for the One<br />
Ring.</p>
<p>2941<br />
The White Council meets. Saruman agrees to attack Dol Guldur, hoping to prevent<br />
Sauron from finding the Ring. The White Council drives Sauron out of Dol Guldur.</p>
<p>2942<br />
Sauron goes in secret to Mordor.</p>
<p>2951<br />
Sauron declares himself openly in Mordor.</p>
<p>2953<br />
The White Council meets for the last time. Saruman lies to the Council, saying he has<br />
learned that the Ring was washed down the Anduin to the Sea. He fortifies Isengard and<br />
begins to spy on Gandalf and sends agents to Bree and the Shire.</p>
<p>2990<br />
Saruman may have begun cross-breeding Orcs and Men around this time.</p>
<p>c. 3000<br />
Saruman uses the palantir of Orthanc and is ensnared by Sauron and becomes a traitor<br />
to the Council. Saruman learns from his spies that the Rangers are guarding the Shire.</p>
<p>3001<br />
The Rangers double their guard on the Shire.</p>
<p>3014<br />
King Theoden of Rohan begins to fall under the influence of Saruman through his agent<br />
Grima Wormtongue.</p>
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		<title>By: King tobo</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-1#comment-91417</link>
		<dc:creator>King tobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a tragedy that Del Toro is directing this... I really got a good chuckle out of the post 
calling him a &quot;master director.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a tragedy that Del Toro is directing this&#8230; I really got a good chuckle out of the post<br />
calling him a &#8220;master director.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: King tobo</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-1#comment-188802</link>
		<dc:creator>King tobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a tragedy that Del Toro is directing this... I really got a good chuckle out of the post 
calling him a &quot;master director.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a tragedy that Del Toro is directing this&#8230; I really got a good chuckle out of the post<br />
calling him a &#8220;master director.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-1#comment-91416</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to refuse to see these two movies.  Especially the one that takes place during the &#039;&#039;60 year period between the &quot;Hobbit&quot; and the &quot;Fellowship of the Ring&quot;. Sounds like its just going to be made up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to refuse to see these two movies.  Especially the one that takes place during the &#8221;60 year period between the &#8220;Hobbit&#8221; and the &#8220;Fellowship of the Ring&#8221;. Sounds like its just going to be made up.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-1#comment-188801</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to refuse to see these two movies.  Especially the one that takes place during the &#039;&#039;60 year period between the &quot;Hobbit&quot; and the &quot;Fellowship of the Ring&quot;. Sounds like its just going to be made up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to refuse to see these two movies.  Especially the one that takes place during the &#8221;60 year period between the &#8220;Hobbit&#8221; and the &#8220;Fellowship of the Ring&#8221;. Sounds like its just going to be made up.</p>
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		<title>By: Digitalbrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digitalbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to see a good film from Del Toro, and I pray that he is not gonna ruin The Hobbit for everybody *sigh* why couldn&#039;t Jackson have done it dammit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to see a good film from Del Toro, and I pray that he is not gonna ruin The Hobbit for everybody *sigh* why couldn&#8217;t Jackson have done it dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: Digitalbrian</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-1#comment-188800</link>
		<dc:creator>Digitalbrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to see a good film from Del Toro, and I pray that he is not gonna ruin The Hobbit for everybody *sigh* why couldn&#039;t Jackson have done it dammit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to see a good film from Del Toro, and I pray that he is not gonna ruin The Hobbit for everybody *sigh* why couldn&#8217;t Jackson have done it dammit!</p>
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		<title>By: Somefellow</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/guillermo-del-toro-comes-out-of-the-hobbit-closet.php/comment-page-1#comment-91387</link>
		<dc:creator>Somefellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is going to be another movie (besides the hobbit) I would love the story of turin turambar. He is a great and tragic character as he would have been destined to destroy melkor had it not been for the curse placed on him after his father defied melkor. So many great battles and visuals could be had. The elf city, the black sword, dragonhelm and the great worm you don&#039;t get much better then that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is going to be another movie (besides the hobbit) I would love the story of turin turambar. He is a great and tragic character as he would have been destined to destroy melkor had it not been for the curse placed on him after his father defied melkor. So many great battles and visuals could be had. The elf city, the black sword, dragonhelm and the great worm you don&#8217;t get much better then that</p>
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