Exclusive: We Know Where the Cloverfield Monster Came From!
Posted by Kevin Carr (kevin@filmschoolrejects.com) on January 18, 2008
Filed Under: Cloverfield , Cloverfield Monster , Matt Reeves, Movie News
After seeing Cloverfield today, audiences around the country are still asking what the hell is the deal with the monster? Where the hell did it come from.
Well, Film School Rejects Brian Gibson and Chris Ilcisko got the inside track on the monster’s origins from the director Matt Reeves himself. If you watch the movie closely, you can see a hint of where the monster comes from.
No, not in the attack footage. Not in the news footage. In the footage from April that was accidentally erased by Hud.
This original footage doesn’t just include the budding relationship between Rob and Beth. It also has the “first” appearance of the monster.
Didn’t catch it? Well, go see the movie again, and watch carefully in the Coney Island footage at the very end. You might just see something suspicious drop into the water.
Watch the skies, my friends. Watch the skies.
————————Editor’s Note————————————-
Brian C. Gibson here,
During my conversation with director Matt Reeves, he indicated to look at something in the water and that there would be a splash. We thought it would make sense, maybe something came down from space and hit. Matt Reeves did indicate this this monster is a baby, a pissed off and confused baby that is looking for mommy. When viewing the scene again, it actually looks just like the monster splashes the water, and not splashes down into it. Its just a little baby monster playing in the harbor at that point, and somehow over the one month’s time evolves into the Cloverfield monster to capsize a boat and destroy the city.
I hear all of you asking about a sequel…Want to know what the director said? Wait for my next post here shortly and I will tell you exactly what he said…
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103 Comments
January 18th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
I also think there are some clues I missed in the first three minutes. I need to go see it again! It was awesome. I was surprised I actually caught the splash in the water at the end.
January 19th, 2008 at 12:52 am
When you say watch yjr coney Island footage at the end, do you mean at the end of the movie?
…When Beth says she’s had good day?
January 19th, 2008 at 2:02 am
Ya…It was very small and difficult to see. I believe I was the only one in the theatre that saw it. A lot of us talked about the movie in the hall and noone saw it. It leads you to believe that is where the creature comes from but at the same time doesn’t verify anything. It may have been one of the most important visuals in the movie. If you didn’t see it and liked the movie, go see it again and look for it. You could also rent or buy it when it comes out. It is near the white boat in the background when the camera looks out through the window. All in all I thought the movie made you think about life and had a good message within an inovative and unique monster movie.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:31 am
This doesn’t make sense. JJ Abrams said that it’s been down there for thousands of years. And it would make all the time people spent trying to figure out what targruato/slusho/TIDOwave a waste if it just dropped out of the sky. Jamie and Teddy didnt matter. Chuai’s destruction didn’t matter. Its all just wasted. It would be the same old “Alien tears up earth” BS. If that turns out to be the case, I would never spend money (or veiwership) on anything having to do with Abrams or Reeves, just ou of principle.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:34 am
Just to add to my post…. I have heard a few people bitching about the fact that there was no backstory but I’m ok with that. They told us that up front. Thats why we’ve been spending all this time looking up random crap on the internet or checking 1-18-08.com daily.
January 19th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Ok, What was whispered at the VERY VERY end of the credits?
January 19th, 2008 at 4:41 am
you hear a muffled voice saying: It’s Still Alive played in reverse though
January 19th, 2008 at 9:05 am
I seen the splash. On the right side of the screen next to the white boat. I guess it is possible that it could fly out of the water and come back. So maybe it flew away in april fucked some other planet up and then came back in May. I loved the fact that you were never told it’s origins. Hud was my favorite character and my favorite scene is when they are dropping the bombs on it.
January 19th, 2008 at 10:43 am
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January 19th, 2008 at 10:46 am
I can’t really stand movies if they don’t explain a little bit about where it is from. Whoever had said that it would be gay if they said it was just an alien, I agree. Hud did say that maybe it was just living in the water, and I would believe that could be true. My only problem with that is…we don’t know if it is true. And tell me ty, how would it “fly”? I don’t recall seeing wings on it at all.
Another quick note, it has been a day now since its release…and not one REAL picture of it has been put up. Now…is this because sites won’t allow it? Or people just don’t care to?
January 19th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
I saw the “thing” hit the water, but there wasn’t any splash like there should have been if something that big hit the water at that speed. Maybe the terrorists sent it!
January 19th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
JJ Abrams said himself that the monster was a “baby” and had been “living dormant under the water for thousands of years”…I think this splash was not so much the monster itself dropping into the water, but the satellite piece (as mentioned in the viral marketing) falling into the water and waking it up. That seems to make more sense than a giant monster just falling out of space into the ocean without anyone noticing anything other than a tiny splash…
January 19th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
ok ive seeen the movie
at the very start u think theres somthing wrong with the cinema but if u read wat it says it was retrieved by the military, does this also mean they found Rob and Beth?
And after the credits you hear blurred stuff does Rob(or Beth) say help help us?
And for those who want to know want the monsters look like(based on 10 sec length
————————SPOILERS——————SPOILERS—————–SPOILERS–
The monster is about half to 3/4 the hieght of the empire state building. it moves like a gorrilla but with brown reptillian like skin. his arms are longer than his legs and can rip right through a building. His skin( or watever it is) is inpenatrable by human weapons (exept for that bomb) but it still lived. The top part of his face is trangular and his bottom jaw teeth go all the way up just below his eyes. towards the top of his face is 2 pink things like bubble gum going in and out(i think its his lungs) his eyes are like a scalene tringle but with roun pupils. I think he has 3 fingers on each hand.
That was the big monster now the little ones. these come out of his body
They are very spider like, if youve seen starship troopers they look mostly like them but with different teeth
Thats it but you dont have to believe me this just based on memory of the movie.
January 19th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
alright so.. i just saw the movie and i liked it.. im disapointed i didnt see the splash though. and also that monster was crazy but i cant even describe it.
SPOILERS… kinda
if the words at the end is really saying its still alive does that mean that we are supposed to beleive that rob and beth and the camera all survived the explosion
anyone feeling a cloverfield 2: its back?
January 19th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
JJ Abrams, released a bunch of crap before the movie hinting at a lot of stuff, a ton of viral things and I really do hope and expect another website.
With information about what happened after the bomb, what NY looks like now and where the monster came form. Probably with a layout similar to the government stuff in the beginning of the movie. We’ll have to wait a while but I really think this is probable
January 19th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
SPOILER!—–maybe….you probably wont get it if u didnt see the movie
ok so jareds girlfriend takes a different helicopter right? Maybe she lived?? And at the beginning it said, “Film found buried in the rubble that used to be central park. so that means we saw the film, but who got the film? does a cloverfield 2 sound good now? Maybe jaredds girlfriend kind of explains it or something. This is just a theory
January 19th, 2008 at 11:52 pm
You just need to look at the statue of liberty poster to know where the monster came from. you can clearly tell it came from the water
January 20th, 2008 at 1:32 am
The splash at the end of the movie can be anything though, I highly doubt the creature came from space. Has no abilities to fly and if it did come from space and landed in the ocean I would think it would create a much larger splash and not even a splash lol more like a tidal wave. But take note of how big the thing is and the strength and leaping power it has. You remember the scene of them in the helicopter watching it as it got bombed by the Stealth Bomber? that scared me ha ha I was expecting something to happen to the Helicopter but damn that thing can jump high. All I’m saying is that splash probably was just made from it either submerging itself or hopping around in the ocean since it seems like it walks on the ocean surface rather then swim… But definitely awesome to see in the cinemas. Makes it more real, can feel those giant foot steps.
God Bless.
January 20th, 2008 at 2:07 am
so i saw the movie and it rocked i did notice the splash and actually alot of people noticed it as well.If you didnt see it im sure that clip will be up all over and soon.Ok so here is my pick up on the monster,and thats the thing the monster.I think monster should be monsters,there was a beginning seen of the movie where it was on 2 feet almost like a human stance with a slouch,now the one we see alot of is very sluggish.Also if anyone notices as they are taking out the sluggish type one background activities and sounds suggest that there is action going on other places.Perfect example is after the helicopter crash…there were 4 planes that were headed directly toward the messed up city and did not attack anything in there way,however the sluggish monster was right there and ended up munching on one of the cast…so i think there is soo much hidden thinggs u need to see it more than once.Most likely im wrong but its a definite possiblity
January 20th, 2008 at 2:12 am
here are links to what i was talking about,these are both concept art
2 feet monster
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/real-cloverfield-monster-concept-art-revealed-maybe.php
sluggish monster
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/exclusive-we-know-where-the-cloverfield-monster-came-from.php#comment-83314
January 20th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Ok, so i saw the movie, and i missed the splash at the end. But i have doubts that that was the monster. First, as others have said, the splash would’le been way too small for a large monster. Second, if it did drop in the ocean there, and somehow grew enormous in such little time, where did all the little monsters come from? Did they just spawn from fungus on his back? I could see the monster living in the ocean for thousands of years, as those pink things on its head kinda reminded me of gills, but again, where did the little monsters spawn from? Last, why did the helicopter fly over the monster. Are you stupid or something? Go AROUND!!
Nevertheless, I loved the movie, and would be glad to see cloverfield 2. :D
P.S. Next time, just send in some cruise missiles.
January 20th, 2008 at 4:23 am
I guess that was this small creatures who splash the water and woke up the monster. maybe they fucked him also and thats why he bacame so angry.
January 20th, 2008 at 4:29 am
although it was be more reassuring in the movie’s…realism for the creature to have come from the waters and have been dormant (although could you imagine the size of that creatures space shuttle? just kidding). I don’t understand though why would the creature have been dormant for thousands of years. Additionally…how can there be only one?
I also have to say that, for a sea creature, it doesn’t appear to have much ’sea creature’ features in it.
—–Tiny spoiler—-
Why would it need those lung-like things on top of its head?
It doesn’t look designed to be a swimmer…or for that matter even a crawler. Correct me if i’m wrong but i spotted only 2 arms and no legs, just a tail.
Have any of you ever played diablo 2? there’s these tiny annoying little minion creatures that really look similar to this monster.
I HATE that the monster looked so fake…i don’t mean in design…i mean..its so obviously cg, and not even well done. The Jurassic Park T-rex looked more realistic
The worst part was when hud gets eaten…or…whatever is done to him…i know he’s dead…but how was he not chewed and swallowed? or did the creature have an instantanous digestive system… THe camera…oh how i HATE that camera….i want to know what brand it is…because if it can survive being chomped on by Godzilla’s sister, its gotta be made some high quality made in japan material or something.
0—End Spoiler====
additionally…its lucky it didn’t land on the west coast…the movie would be over the minute chuck decided to do something about it :P
January 20th, 2008 at 4:31 am
almost forgot…those gills or lungs….how come the monster survive bomber attacks with those things right on his face like pimples on a teenager? pop…your dead….
January 20th, 2008 at 7:00 am
The Splash Has Plagued Me And Others Since We First Saw It
Most Popular Theroies To What It Was Are…
>The Monster Coming From Outer Space
>A Man Jumping Off A Boat
But Mostly It Is Considered To Be:
>A Satellite From The Fictional Company ‘Tagruato’ Which Is The Deep-Sea Drilling Company Which Awoke The Monster From Its Deep Sleep…
I Loved That Movie…It Kept You Thinking About It…
January 20th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Well anyone ever consider the fact taht there was 2monsters attacking the city in that movie. Well there are. i know this and i think its the big secret about the movie. The movie poster gives the biggest hint………. everyone doesnt seem to catch it tho.
January 20th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
ok we saw the splash the monster couldve grown between april 27 and may 3 just because u saw it on may 3 doesnt mean it was in the same form wen it crashed in the ocean.
January 20th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
RE to andrew: were did those things come from because its hard to see them on his body?
January 20th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
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January 20th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
sorry i did dat on accident
January 20th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
ppl ppl!!! go on http://www.1-18-08.com u can flip the photos over if u like shake them back and forth wit the mouse
January 20th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
well the splash came from the satellite from tarugao that they couldnt recover. Thats a fact . But if u notice on the poster and on the movie the thing that ripped the head off left claw marks. Now. When the statue of liberties head hit the ground in the movie shortly after a “larger monster with hind legs and a shell walks through a building. Meaning that it coudlnt have gotten over there so fast. Also when they are running to the subway u get your first up close look at the monster “briefly” when you see it looks different from the up close look u get before hud dies. The first one has eyes and pupils and a different head shape and the other has bug like eyes. Now also the monster from the helicopter scene had weird arms that had “3″ spore like fingers on it. As in the scene were they are crossing back over the building after saving beth the monster is fully upright and is walking on hind legs with 5 claws on its hands. Also in that scene as they were going across to get beth the helicopters are attacking something in the distance..but suddenly the monster is next to them…im sorry but that monster isn’t that fast lol. Also when they are on the bridge something LArge from the ocean attacks but if u look at the tentacles they are completely different than the main monster we got to get a good look at in the movie. If u pay attention very carefully you will start to notice that there are 2 monsters attacking the city. I think that JJ did t let them know that in the movie because in the next movie we will get a recap and be like ” ooohhhh”. But the biggest clue is the 2 size differences of the monster and the claws on the hands on the monsters. NOt many people realize this but i saw the movie a lot just to study it and i think that this is the biggest secret of the movie that we will all find out later.
January 21st, 2008 at 12:26 am
Andrew you are my hero, will you bear my children lol. and how do i exlore the whole Tarugao Incedent
January 21st, 2008 at 12:51 am
you can go to cloverfieldnews.com and look up the old info its all in there.. if anyone has any question u can aim me at : Drewsterman2000
January 21st, 2008 at 11:59 am
Andrew is right and it is a scared baby looking for its mother.
January 21st, 2008 at 12:42 pm
A lot of people don’t realize that it wasn’t just a splash, It was something falling from the sky, thats were I was focused, not the water, it fell from above the boat so it wasn’t from the boat so something definitely fell in. Also what fell was an organism, It was a seed with a tail, or the baby monster curled up with its tail sticking out.
January 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I agree with Andrew. There were at least 2 different monsters here. The monster in the water had a huge tail, and the other one looked way different. Also i agree, there is no way that monster would have moved so fast lol. Remember in the beginning of the movie where everything was shaking? well the building they were in shook pretty hard, which would have to of meant that whatever make that noise had to be very close. WHatever tore off the statue of liberties head could of not of moved that far without anyone seeing.
January 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pm
yeah here was 2 monsters maybe the bigger one was the mother and the smaller one was the baby. because the first time u see its face it doesnt have that bubble gum stuff coming out of its head.
January 21st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
didnt hud stop filming because i didnt think a helicopter could go that fast either.
January 21st, 2008 at 3:43 pm
im thinking…the mother is the island of manhatten itself! as i have read somewhere on another site. and the tenicles at the bridge was the mother waking up! as well as the the huge overwhelming bellowing that was shaking the very ground and all the buildings. and i also believe that could be why so many buildings were just leaning. something underneath them shifted pretty dramatically. the monster that you are all refering too that looked diferent …looked more like the parsites….mybe this “baby” was being hunted by the other monster and the parasites were its offsprings? and two different roars definatley were throughout this movie! i thought the monster near the choppers had strange lookind long skinny linmbs as well.
January 21st, 2008 at 6:31 pm
I too saw the movie and loved. But here’s my take on where the monster came from:
If you’ve seen the viral videos you’ll remember the clip of the “fake” news talking about an oil well in the Atlantic being blown up by “eco-terrorists” but in actuality its the monster. Near the end of the report it shows a map of where New York is corresponding to the oil well that is now submerged. Also at the end of the news clip you see a person with a cell phone recording his escape on an inflattable life raft and as they boat off, you see debris just fly out of the ocean like something super strong and pissed was tossing it out of the water. I think the the news real has the same or similar date as the “coney island footage” and that the splash was actually part of the oil well debris that the monster threw. The “satelite debris” was just a cover story by the company that owned the oil well. It’s possible that this oil well was drilling or doing something in the sea and it woke up the monster in the Atlantic, it got pissed, sank the well and tossed it’s debris in the air only to have one of the chunks land near Coney Island. You have to see the viral ads to kinda understand this, but this theory also backs up JJ Abrams statement that it’s been asleep for thousands of years and has just woken up.
January 21st, 2008 at 6:41 pm
finally eyes are being open… i think thats y there are no pics of the monster officially cus he knows people will realize..but i think he filmed a 3 hr movie but cut it off intentionally so we can see the other half..and i think they are gunna release a 2nd movie before the dvd comes out so it can be a whole dvd.
January 21st, 2008 at 7:32 pm
The theory of there being 2 monsters is plausible. Afterall we’re seing the story from the view of just one group of people trying to escape, and we don’t have the overview of what is actually going on.
It would also explain the differences in size in some scenes. When the monster is right above hud, it actually looks fairly smaller in comparison to the other RARE times we see a monster, such as when its being bombed. I’m hoping that’s the case, because there was big issues regarding Godzilla (the one in New York), where his
size would drastically change from scene to scene.
Things that don’t make sense even for movie logics:
-The camera surviving several drops, hits and such…including the fall from the monsters mouth.
-The monster bites hud and spits him out?…ok…makes no sense at all. What….did he taste like poop??
-The monster needs glasses…look how long it took him to respond after seeing hud right in front of him.
-Some scenes where the camera is on…honestly if a big monster attacked my city and i happened to have the camera in my hand, i’d record only the monster, not the pointless traveling and such.
-CG…CG!!…CG!!!!..it’s sooooo fake.
-This is not a racist comment..its a good sense comment: they let the black girl on the helicopter BEFORE the injured girl? Of course they needed it for plot…but that would never happen…injured would have gone first.
-A monster that’s nearly unaffected by all human attacks (obviously nuclear strike wasn’t tried on him yet). Why don’t those morons aim for his lungs/gills things…
-The spider things just looked ridiculously stupid…how many limbs does a stupid creature need? What is it? centipedezilla?
-IF it’s from outerspace…how did nobody saw this incoming object?
-IF it was dormant for thousands of years:
A) Dinosaurs were alot more than thousands of years ago.
B) It sleeps for thousands of years, is still a baby and grows up in 1 month?…
C) Why does it have fleas and ticks?
D) Why does it have a ground based body design rather than acquatic?
I have to say it was enjoyable…but i still feel ripped off to have payed 10.25$ for a movie ticket, expecting to see a monster in full detail instead of seeing a glimpse of him for a total of 5 minutes throughout the whole movie…
Additionally, i think Godzilla could still kick his butt…or their butts…whichever.
January 21st, 2008 at 7:59 pm
um hud was bitten in half……… lol the other half fell with the camera.
January 21st, 2008 at 9:06 pm
ORIGINS: The film opened with the information that the film was recovered from US Site Number 447 - Codenamed “Cloverfield” indicating that there were at least 447 OTHER incident attack sites. I would like to think that the Monster was one of 500 or so invaders sent to soften up Earth Defenses for a full scale invasion. 500 Leviathans dropped in the middle of major cities around the world would soon exhaust defenses. The smaller parasites take down the population by spreading virus and poisons. This was not unlike Independence Day type attack. There could be a second wave of flying monstrosities. What if this was just a test to see how our defenses would react? I like the space invasion theory. A creature of that magnitude would not have been overlooked over the centuries - the mere nutritional requirements would have brought notice of it long before we saw it. ALSO - I doubt it would be a single creature - Most animals have as large of numbers as the environment will support.
We might have missed one - sleeping - over the centuries - but not 447….
What do you think?
I doubt the origins are simply a sea creature that suddenly decides to shop in the Big Apple. Give me big mean space aliens - a submerged delivery system from a low orbit mothership!!! YES? What do you think?
January 21st, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Did anyone else notice that it only took an axe to kill the little guys but bombs and heavy round bullets with heat ranges like that of thermite didn’t penitrate the monster’s skin? I mean the monster didn’t even really bleed or did I miss that…?
January 21st, 2008 at 10:41 pm
1. Destruction by the Statue of Liberty. Minutes later, Something erupts from the ground in the city.
2. As something erupts from the ground, it shoots fireballs into the sky. (I noticed a lot of you forgot to list that in the “Weird Crap” index.)
3. The creature that killed Hud was DEFINITELY MUCH smaller than whatever ripped the head for the Statue of Liberty. It was standing roughly 50 feet over Hud.
4. The creature running behind the buildings was as large as the buildings, bipedal, and much more immense than the 4 or 6 legged creature that was crawling around.
5. I did not see the long tail on the larger monster. But, at least one of these creatures had a short, blunt tail. Almost like a fin. So, if you guys saw a longer tailed creature, there are definite 2 different creatures.
January 21st, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Does anybody know what happened to Marlena? The girl that got bit by one of the parasites.
When the soldiers grabbed them, and she started bleeding, the nurse yelled “bite!”.
They took her behind the curtain, and there was a lot of blood. But, they didn’t say what happened.
Any ideas?
January 22nd, 2008 at 12:08 am
Marlena was infected by the bite and there was another organism growing inside her kinda like the chestbusters on Aliens. That was why she kept feeling strange and it was pretty much eating her from the inside. And if you watch it in slo-mo (there are clips on youtube) you see that she expands then explodes. That sucks too because she was pretty hot. But when the little ones bite you thats how they form another one. And my theory is the monster is actually what happens if you let the Grabites fully mutate they become this monster.
January 22nd, 2008 at 12:43 am
Was it just me or did it seem as though the Military showed up awful quickly. I mean, when the power goes out in Manhattan is when I assume that the monster begins to attack. Then, about 20 minutes later the military is fully mobilized with Marines armed with, among other things, was seemed to be SAM’s, TANKS, and command/ medical centers. Wouldn’t it take forever to get all of that stuff into that part of NY, especially considering that one of the main entrances; the bridge, was out. That, coupled with the fact that the DoD recovered the tape seemed, to me, as though they knew that this thing(s) was and it didn’t just show up out of the water one day.
January 22nd, 2008 at 9:04 am
Are you guys who went to see the movie trying to tell me you don’t ever get to “see” the freaking monster?! what? thats totally lame….why would i pay money just to see people going AHHHHHHH! run away!! AHHHHH EEEEEEK!!!!!! “we can die here. we can die in the tunnels. or we can die in the streets.” i mean come on!!!
January 22nd, 2008 at 12:00 pm
The parasites (things falling off) are like the fish that stick to sharks and whales and clean them. Those weren’t babies.
Its misleading when hud gets chomped of how close the monster was. The long arms could have been partially bent, the camera on zoom. I would think there is only one monster. Didnt seem like the military ever mentioned anything in plural.
January 22nd, 2008 at 3:39 pm
i hope you guys don’t think i’m trying to be hostile, cuz i’m not. :)
andrew: if hud was bitten in half, wouldn’t the upper half be in the mouth and the lower half be on the ground? But you clearly see his head when the camera falls.
‘hmmmmm’ makes very valuable points. Not to mention that when is there NOT heavy traffic in New York? No way would those tanks be there when they were. Its movie logics hard at work.
JT: yeah that’s something that really bugs me. Does that mean we need a super sized axe to kill the thing? :)
Danlor: The thing is, and guys correct me if i’m wrong, but he runs to pick up the cam and turns around to see the monster. It appears to me that he doesn’t zoom while doing this…and if he does…he’s a complete moron…here he is facing death and he’s adjusting the zoom on his camera?
Bobbo: i doubt those are micro ‘cloverfield monsters’ cuz they look so esthetically different from the big guy (or girl).
In addition i’d like to add: Its a shame that America’s answer to Godzilla are 2 monsters instead of 1 (although we could still be wrong).
January 22nd, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I liked the movie. And to the people are saying the “movie was dumb cuz it didnt tell you anything in it”, thats the whole point idiots. He made it like that on purpose. You only see what Hud videotaped.
January 22nd, 2008 at 7:18 pm
It is obvious that there is an extreme size difference, but it is possible that when the monster destroys buildings at the beginning that he was “standing up” on its hind legs. Just a thought.
January 23rd, 2008 at 12:15 am
So, nobody has any ideas about the fireballs that shoot into the sky as it climbs out of the ground?
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:37 am
Ok… they are not “spiders.” everytime i see that to describe them it drives me crazy. i believe that they are definitely some sort of crustacean and they have a symbiotic relationship with the monster. it totally supports the whole “sea monster” theory, because like Danlor said it’s a common thing with sharks and coral and stuff. if this is some sort of military-chemical-experiement-gone-wrong-just-dump-it-in-the-ocean kinda thing than that would explain why they’re both so big (monster and parasites). and if it was a military thing gone wrong that would explain how they got into the city so fast, perhaps they knew what was coming and play dumb to cover their asses. i definitely don’t think it’s from space though. as for the explosion right after what happened in the water i’ve got nothing haha
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:52 am
in addition to my last post: i didn’t really think about it till i just wrote that. no one has really gotten into anything about whether or not it was brought on by man kind. weapon testing out in the ocean by the air force or military or whatever. maybe this thing was once a dolphin………. well, you know what i mean. perhaps they did something that caused some deep ocean dwellers to start to get messed up and this one just happened to survive/make it to the surface. they could have gotten burried in a deep sea explosion along with toxic shit or whatever… im just rambling but i think it’s definitely plausible
January 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 am
They aren’t spiders. Correct.
As a matter of fact, next time you get a chance to see them, you will realize that, if anything, their heads are almost “avian”. They have an eye on either side, and huge jaws/(beaks?) with serrated edges.
But, the jaws are definitely top and bottom. Which, now gives credence to the possibility that they are young Cloverfields. But, at the same time, they could be mutated sea lice because…
My next theory:
There are several “Cloverfields” asleep beneath the ocean floor.
Tagruato/Slusho may have been “drilling” into hibernating creatures.
The “Sea Nectar”, may actually be the blood from these things. Or, something along these lines.
This would explain the effects of Slusho. And, it would also explain the mutated seal lice, as well as the effects of their bite. The exploding or poisoning of the victims could be a result of the Cloverfield blood entering a victim from the bite of the small creatures.
The creature that attacked NY may have been awakened by the satellite, before it could be drained by Tagruato.
The creatures are so big, that when the drilling was happening, nobody would even think it was an animal. It would have seemed like some kind of resource under the sea floor.
January 23rd, 2008 at 6:43 am
i don’t buy that whole created by mankinds weapons teasting or chemical testing, and i certainly don’t buy that deep sleep thing where its awakened by a drillbit or a falling satellite.
Aside from the fact that atomic radiation does not cause growth spurts of the effect of that monster, What could possibly have been dumped in the sea that would affect only one or 2 creatures? The sea is the most populated part of the earth. And why would fishies grow limbs?
The whole satellite and drilling thing. This thing can take missiles to the face and smile and its awoken by something the size of a toothpick or a pebble (sizes in comparison to the monsters size)? Besides…if he was dormant in the sea, he went unnoticed for…pretty much ever…meaning that it was waaaaaaay deep under the sea. The pressure there is destructive for us. I’m pretty sure if it has skin to survive that pressure, it can survive a drillbit or a satelite without being disturbed.
The whole ‘dormant’ thing: why would this thing be dormant for millennia and still be a baby?
I keep having to remind myself that its just a movie, but i am really curious of how they are gonna figure this one out. In his time, King Kong was accepted because there was still room around for fantastic voyages in uncharted areas. Godzilla worked in his time because the effects of nuclear radiation were not known, so it was plausible that what happened…happened. But now we live in an era where if we don’t know something…click…wikipedia…youtube….google….you know it. They must have something really interesting up their sleeves (i hope).
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:05 pm
If you go to http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/tachiyomi/comic/cloverfield/images/openbook.jpg
you will come to the J.J. Abrams-Produced comic for Cloverfield/Slusho, or something along the lines of this storyline. You will see the ship dragging something through the water, and on the last page, you will see the Cloverfield-creature surfacing.
What struck me, was that the ship dragging the creature looked a lot like the last scene of the movie, where the couple is at the amusement park, and in the background, you can see a large ship dragging something through the water.
Is it dragging it on purpose, or did they just pick it up by mistake? I don’t know. If you guys can read Japanese, check out the site above, Read J.J.’s comic, and you tell me!
Either way, his comic has nothing to do with anything falling from the sky into a NY harbor. So far.
Back to my theory about drilling into the creatures to get the “Deep Sea Nectar”…
It’s true, that judging from the Cloverfield creature so far, drilling into one, even a sleeping one, probably would not work.
Maybe, they drilled into an egg or eggs. Maybe the “Deep Sea Nectar” is the yolk or something.
January 23rd, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Sorry folks, my bad.
Here is the link. Go here, and click Open in the top left.
http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/tachiyomi/comic/cloverfield/#
January 24th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
NIce detective work everyone!
Here is my take:
2 monsters, mom and child
The splash at the end is a tie in to the Manga as mentioned above by Horrificus-Boat tows
baby, mom gets involved?
Not a “fish” but a hybrid reptile/ amphibian that “walks” the sea floor
Slusho is made from blood or milk, etc from said monsters, the same as the parasite things
feed on, so a bite would yield a mega dose.
fun stuff
January 24th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I am with Horrificus, can anyone shed some light on the explosion and projectiles after the party?
January 24th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Ok I just saw this movie today. And I really did like it. But since I have major motion sickness issues, I had to step out for 5 min. But other than that it was all good. Anyways……
I really don’t get all the stuff about Jamie and Teddy. That had absolutly nothing to do with the movie. And all those usless pictures of the monster. All totally worthless. I mean it was a great stunt to go and get people to see the movie, but I feel like I wasted time searching through all the stuff.
And I am totally bummed that I did not get to see the splash in the water!! poop. But I do think there were 2 monster, for sure.
I do not think the whole US was under sttack or the soldier would have said something about it to Rob.
I did notice that when they were shooting at the monster its skin seamed to be getting torn up, but then when it was standing over Hud it’s skin seemed to be totally fine. I think that is why they chose to sacrifice the whole city just to try and kill it. And I do think they did not kill it.
January 24th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
aw- has it right… if you notice.. those “lungs” on the side of that monster’s head appear very similar to that of a frog ie. amphibious sea creature.
ive seen the comic now, but dont speak japanese…..
thing is at 1-18-08.com, theres some pics of whales with bites in em, who’ve seemingly washed up on shore, a picture of a japanese guy in shock with what he’s got in a baking sheet, some kind of “eggs” in a jar in the background too.
also of note are the pics with rob, dated january 2008 (april/may???) lascano, platt(looks like hud) and robbie says the first. while the second, isnt dated but seems to be from the party, simpy states, dont forget who takes care of you… J(essica?)
also, i agree, there is probably two or more creatures rumbling around, as the first one seen, at night, is visibly “greener” and brighter than the one hud films before being bitten in half. the one who does bit him,
so in my estimation, rob and jessica survive the attacks for sure, at least initially… and a sequel would be scheduled for right after the movie ends..
could it be possible that after having drained so much blood/nectar from this sea frog, that it would have awoken from hibernation like a bear and hungry?it was an oil tanker that capsized in NYC right?
never noticed the splash while watching, but from the still shot i saw, the splash could not have been anything like a sattelite or alien, etc . as the velocity coming from out of orbit would easily make a giant spectacle, noone would ever not notice it.
i thought the one that lumbered around resembled a wierd frog, while the green one looked like a turtle without shell, just a thought
January 24th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
brenzor– check 1-18.com again… you’ll see a pic of a military force attacking something in the centre of the picture… theres a very similar one taken probly moments later… seems like a battleship or other naval ship has taken a hit… so my guess is the projectiles are blown-up munitions from the explosion.
January 25th, 2008 at 4:37 am
although i support the concept of there being 2 monsters, one thing i can’t get around: why would they look so different as described by those who saw them correctly? If one is mother and the other is son, wouldn’t they have facial similarities? I read someone in this article say that the head looked different when they were running down the subway stairs in front of the monster, and i agree..it DID look different, which makes no sense to me.
January 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
so are there 2 different land monster? and there is one in the ocean. so that makes 3? bah!
January 25th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
HEY EVERYONE!!! IF YOU DIDN’T CATCH THE SPLASH.. HERE’S THE VIDEO!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nfAY5oxcmrg
January 25th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
The thing on 1-18-08.com is with a huge bite in it is clearly not a whale, look at the two large spike coming out of it
January 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
I don’t think it is a whale either, but it is BIG. Do you see how small the seagull is that next to it.
January 25th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
at the end you here someone say “help us” and when its reversed it says “its still alive”
January 25th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
dave- the narwhal has a spike coming out of it, perhaps the spike is a claw… whatever… but you’ll notice that the fisherman seems to be lowering a trap into the water….
January 25th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
So are there 2 monsters or 3? what do yall think?
January 26th, 2008 at 10:34 am
I think there has to be more than 1 monster. While mayhem is breaking out on the island of Manhattan, the head of the Statue of Liberty comes flying by. Can the monster really move that fast? Unless the monster kept the head with him/her and then threw it when they reached Manhattan.
As for the army knowing about the monster and suddenly appearing. Is the army not ready to deploy in NY as a result of what happened during 9/11?
I loved the movie. It was full of suspense. I hope they have a sequel for it.
January 26th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Well there are 4 army bases in New York. And being an Army fiance, I know that Army has to be prepared for stuff like this 24/7. It doesn’t surprise me that they got there that quick and set up a medical station and what not.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:41 am
All the references to the monster made by all the army people was it. not them or they. meanin there is one monster. the other 447 attcks could have been differnt or in the past attcks.
January 27th, 2008 at 1:52 am
If you go to this site,
http://www.celebridiot.com/2008/01/07/cloverfield-oil-rig-news-video/
you can watch, what I believe, is the awakening of our monster.
As per my theory above, it would seem that Tagruato really had been, somehow, drilling into these creatures for the Deep Sea Nectar that is an ingredient in Slusho. Whether they knew there were animals being pumped dry, or they thought it was just some weird organic substance below the ocean floor, who knows. I guess we will find out eventually.
But, my guess is that this drilling platform was the first to actually wake one of these things up.
Then, you can probably draw a pretty straight line on a map, starting from the oil rig, to the destroyed ship, then to the statue of liberty (sans head), then into the city.
Even the movie poster actually shows a wake leaving the headless statue, and ending at some scene of destruction leading onto land, and into the city.
January 27th, 2008 at 2:05 am
It’s a Kraken.
January 30th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
I agree with Horrificus and Andrew.
Heres my theory:
**May contain spoilers**
If you look at a picture of where they were drilling, there are on that ridge in the ocean.
It is possible that these creatures reside there.
The oil company then broke through the ridge searching for oil or resources, but on a map an object that big WOULD look like a natural resource hot spot.
Anyways, the monster then awakens from its slumber and destroys the oil rig out of pure aggression. All of the commotion, or the cry of the baby woke the mom/dad up, and they soon became very hungry, confused, and afraid of the world they now lived in, which was different 1,000+ years ago.
All of the lights from Manhattan could have been drawn to it, checked it out, didn’t like it, then it got pissed… fast.
And as for the end where the monster is looking at Hud, it think that monster was the “baby”. It looked curious to what was in front of him thus looking at it weird and tilting its head.
But seriously… it from the ridge in the Atlantic Ocean, chucked a piece of the oil rig all the way to coney island.
January 31st, 2008 at 12:43 pm
One thing that annoys me more than ANYTHING ELSE is the people that believe “help us” played backwards sounds like “it’s still alive”
HOW CAN TWO SYLLABLES PLAYED BACKWARDS TURN INTO 4??
I also think that there has to be AT LEAST two monsters…
But people, STOP WITH THE “It’s still alive” talk… use the simple voice recorder on your computer, record “help us” and play it backwards…. Jesus Christ that’s annoying…
February 2nd, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Jay, maybe you should take your own advice and TRY IT OUT YOURSELF. After reading your comment, i found a clip where it said help us on youtube and reversed it. It actually does say ‘it’s still alive’. I’m sure they studied the line+static+breathing so that it would sound comprehensible in both ways you listen to the clip.
One thing is for sure, the clip was originally recorded with him saying ‘it’s still alive’ and then reversed to say ‘help us’. You can tell its more clear in one direction than the other.
Bottom of the line: FACT: it does say ‘it’s still alive’ backwords.
February 7th, 2008 at 1:41 am
CHUCK, I MAKE MUSIC, I’M IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE MANY HOURS A WEEK….
I’ll record it for you and then ACTUALLY play it backwards for you to REALLY hear what it sounds like…
I can’t believe YOU believe some doctored youtube sh!t…..
Think for yourselves people!
February 10th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
1) WRITING IN CAPS = annoying
2) There is only one clip type that i’ve heard of, floating around youtube. If there are any other clips, then it wasn’t between the dozen clips i heard. So by your deduction, i’ve nailed the doctored clip on the head every single time? Highly unlikely. I’ve would have at least caught the right one by accident.
3) Looking foward to hear your clip.
4) Relax.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
I was entertained by the movie, also in a nautious way. One thing is for sure, JJ’s productions have more holes than swiss cheese.
There are many theories floating around concerning the monster, origins, reverse messages, etc. I just want to say one thing, the explenation is probably far more simple and will leave even more holes.
2 or 3 monsters is possible but I’m thinking cinematic sizing screwup. It was mentioned about “it winning” but it was pretty clear that the military was completely clueless at that time and had no idea what it was dealing with.
The monster kind of appears different in the battle scene and the end Hud eat me scene but that could just be perspective. For the few amount of times you see the thing you really can’t get a good grasp of what it really looks like.
They were probably going for sea creature and after many drawings got down to what we saw on film and thought, “that’s gonna look friggin awesome” and stuck with in forgoing logic. Especially the gill-like things on its head which were probably meant more for effect in that scene than reality. Gotta admit, was kind of cool watching them puff up before Hud got mauled.
The little things that looked like the bugs from SS Troopers would have made burger out of them with those jaws, I don’t understand one bite out of three climbing the ceiling. I don’t think they were offspring.
The fact the big monster survived on land so long without going back to the ocean is also a little suspicious. I could possibly be amphibious but then it would need to surface even just to breathe through its skin. Just another hole.
The largest known animals on earth are whales, many eat krill and plankton. Most don’t have the choppers like on that puppy. What did this thing eat on a regular basis that would cause it on the evolutionary basis to have such huge choppers. Maybe it was pissed because we’re turning all of his food into oil. If so, why didn’t he attack the eskimos.
Viral items are annoying. As much as I enjoyed the movie, I also get annoyed by it. I also get annoyed with myself typing this. The point of the movie is to show a more first person realistic view of a chaotic event. I even like the ending. There was no great Bruce Willis drilling into the monster and blowing it up from the inside or radioactive bitten spidy spooping out and harnessing the beast with his web. It was as realistic as you can make a movie like that and kind of a downer, which sometimes is so much better then the caped hero ending. But the viral publicity bull and the backwards messages and oil drilling and nectar stuff is annoying. Can’t we just let a movie be what it was meant to be. And a Cloverfield 2? Didn’t we learn from Blairwitch. Things are much better when left just mysterious then with viral items, it makes it much more interesting. What was the monster and it’s origins, I’d rather just speculate on one of these boards or at a coffee table then be fed bull. Like they needed to put that dumb whisper at the end, what a waste of time. If you want to try and explain thing put it on the DVD extras.
I thought a mock cheezy TV newscast would be a great extra. That way you could put it on while your grandpa is sleeping on the couch, unplug the phones and wake him up in a fury. He better have on the Depends.
February 12th, 2008 at 1:02 am
dudes i just heard that jj was talking about the second movie. he said that on the scene where everyone is on the bridge, hud looks over and sees another dude with a video camera, so it would be like intersecting movies which is wut he said and sounds like a pretty cool idea
February 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Maybe that dude will get better shots of the monster(s). I hope the camera is the same model, I’m looking for that camera. Advertisement should say “Will survive several drops on concrete, parasites, helicopter crash, bite from giant puffy headed monster, and bombing.” Maybe that camera will have better stabilization technology. Movie is approved by Bulimics everywhere.
What would be great if they made it the guy that does the famous, “Leave Brittney Alone!” sketch on YouTube so another one of his sketches before chaos ensues. Or maybe he can bang Paris Hilton at the first part of the tape. I wouldn’t mind seeing her bitten by a parasite and exploding, “That’s Hoouuuuu. . .Boom.” Probably will have footage of his toy poodle Twinkle jumping through hoops. I mean not everybody’s friends are all that good looking. Gotta have a nose picker in the bunch or a perverted Uncle Larry.
I still maintain that the movie is awesome and be leary of a second movie. I feel that we will be put in an endless loop and never have closure even with Cloverfield 2, just another spash and a backwards message. I say the Coverfield monster goes to Philly and fights Rocky. Rocky will rally and prevail against the beast.
February 16th, 2008 at 2:11 am
I don’t understand one point in the movie. IF IT WAS IMPLIED THAT IT CAME FROM THE SEA
THEN HOW IS IT THAT IT CAN MOVE SO QUICKLY. The muscles imply power but under
water it means nothing. The gravity under water is very little. An octopus could be strong
and deadly under water but on land the gravity would be too great. I guess the Cloverfield
monster had a great MTV under water cave crib.
February 21st, 2008 at 10:56 am
on http://www.1-18-08.com, flip the picture of the chef over, if anyone can read japanese could you translate please?
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
ey guys I figured out what cloverfield is. It is not from space, it is an experiment. It originated from Japan, Slusho.pl. If you done believe me read the history of the company on the website and also read the happy talk. These two things tell you so much. It is an experiment that is lauched into the water off New York somewhere, thats what drops into the water. They were experiementing with different mixtures and lauched it into the water. A sea animal interacted with it and there is cloverfield. JJ says that it has been in the water for thousands of years that may be true but the mixture is what wakes it up. i think that their is some kind of human dna involved to. the cloverfield monster actual did try to hurt people it was basically fighting back. jj also said that it is a baby. so subsequent movies will probably have it be good, like godzilla (what it is based on). i hope i was helpful. if you go to happy talk you hear the cloverfield monster. bye for now.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Oh yeah…and Tagruato is the company Rob is being sent to in japan.
February 25th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I do dig the comment that John said about human DNA since the creature’s humanoid form. JJs comment could mean that the origin of the original creature could be that old but this mutation is a new bread. It kind of goes a little torwards the plot of nuclear testing causing a new species Godzilla. Although, we didn’t have Ferris Bueller take him out with him dumb wannabe news chick that looked uncannily like his ex-wife. But that’s a whole other blog. As pixelking stated sea creatures don’t usually move like that on land, and also wouldn’t be able to breathe that long on land, unless amphibious. And nothing amphibious would have stayed unnoticed that long unless around Bermuda. Most bottom feeding sea creatures also have an exoskeleton which the creature did not appear to have, at least creatures that move that fast. I think it would have worked better if they designed it with an exoskeleton because then it would explain missles doing nothing to it but knocking it around. If the creature originates from Japan, will Godzilla come to battle it, or will Mothra intervene? I think it came from the island the cast from LOST is on.
March 4th, 2008 at 1:14 am
That the other thing that bothered me. There was a lot of fire power going on. The
creatures skin seemed too thin to be able to withstand it. I mean we have missiles that can
destroy underground bunkers and I am sure they would have used one of them on the
creature. But NOTHING happened. I agrre with the exoskeleton thing.. Seems more
plausible.
March 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Another thing. Did anyone else find Hud a tad bit ANNOYING. He sounded like Gary Busey’s
son.
March 16th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
i was at barnes and noble today and i was reading a copy of cinefex (its a special effects book on current movies). I found a section on cloverfield and there were 3 pictures of the monster.
the first one was when the gang was on top of the brocken skyscraper, and you get a glimpes of ‘clover’. Indeed it is the same monster because he’s actually running on his front arms.
the second was the clovers face when they enter the subway and the third was the face when he’s above hud.
There’s no mention of there being to monsters, however i did noticed some differences in the faces of the last two images.
The face when he’s above hud has a split jaw with sharp spike like teeth coming upwards. The face over the subway has a jaw more similar to t-rex with no front teeth..just a few chunky ones in the back.
Also the color of the head bladders was different, changing from a brown/green glob to a light pink in the later picture.
I don’t think it means 2 different monsters…i think its just bad movie making procedures.
April 12th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
If it turns out that was a nuclear strike at the end AND they have the monster living through it, then it’s clearly NOT from space or the bottom of New York harbor–it’s from Fantasyland.
It’s bad enough that the thing somehow was able to survive the Stealth Bomber strike, even though some of the “Bunker Buster” bombs the US used in Iraq can penetrate 20 feet of concrete.
But with a nuclear weapon, it’s irrelevant how “impenetrable” the creature’s skin is. It’s (presumably) still made of matter. And the temperature at the center of a nuclear blast is several million degrees (Centigrade). Even 50 meters from the center, it’s still 9,000 - 11,000 degrees. The highest boiling point of any element, for comparison, is that of tungsten, at 5,660 degrees. The creature wouldn’t be blown apart by the blast–it would be vaporized.
April 14th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloverfield_%28creature%29
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/75/Clovermonstertoy.jpg
April 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Ok i want to straighten somthing out i saw the splash at the end and there is allot of theorys but read all of this to understand it,
The falling item from the sky at the end was a slusho sattelite JJ said it at a conference
the monsters came because it shook them up their is 2 monsters a parent and a baby notice how the monster at the end looks younger and smaller plus has more teeth.
The monster in the beggining is much larger and is missing quite a few teeth.
And for the 2nd movie they said there is going to be one but this one is also a secret no title and no previews.
And Robs brother who supposibly dies on the brooklen bridge isnt really dead he swam away and was safe.
And at the end for the credits it says its still alive backwords they are using riddles to keep us guessing until the 2nd one. i will keep posting everything new and i just bought the dvd yesterday and if you check closely if you use equpment you can buy at tech stores you can see that robs bro doesnt die
April 27th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
1-18-08.com if you go here there is a picture with a chef on it and on the back is a japanease letter i am translating it so i will post what it says later when i have it done
April 27th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Ok now like i said in the picture here is the translation
if you’re getting hungry reading this, you might want to prepare the same dish. Here is what the recipe says [via Unfiction]:
“Everybody, thank you for viewing! I’ll introduce this week’s delicious recipe. Please make sure to keep this one cold!
* Skinless chicken breast - 2, cut in halves
* S?men noodles - 10 oz.
* Watercress - 1/2 cup cut into small strips
* Turnip - 1/2 cup, thinly sliced
* Shiitake Mushrooms - 1/2 cup
* Chicken stock - 1/3 cup
* Sake - 2 tbsp.
* Sugar - 1/2 tsp.
* Deep-sea crab - one
In a small saucepan, stir together 1/3 cup water, chicken stock, sake, and sugar. Chill it until it becomes cold. Grill the chicken breast on both sides for about 8 minutes, and then chill. Boil the noodles for about 3 minutes, and then run under cold water until chilled. Mix the watercress, turnips, and mushrooms into the s?men. Slice the chicken thinly and arrange on top of the s?men mix. Just before you serve, put the crab in the sauce and pour over the noodles generously.
Go Go Delicious Chef!”
The only clue is the last ingredient in the recipe, Deep-sea crab, which has made an appearance in the Slusho.jp website.
April 27th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
The whales shown on 1-18-08.com are Sperm whales their bitten pretty bad, as for the “spike” looks like a tooth.. possibly from a very hungry large creature- Say has anyone ever seen the show called “Surface” look it up and check it out..
May 8th, 2008 at 3:03 am
It was a ufo crash.
Creatures come from a high gravity planet.
Leaves the ufo and expands.
Multiple creatures? Maybe same kind maybe not.
Aliens of different kinds fighting or playing on earth who knows.
UFO crashed one creature…The one we see.
The tail creature the dormant sleeping creature and his name is Godzilla