Comments on: WTF: Blu-ray Blues http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php A Website About Movies Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:06:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Cloudmonkey http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-165947 Cloudmonkey Sat, 29 May 2010 12:35:21 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-165947 Kevin,<br><br>That was an awesome summary of the BluRay technology and functionality. In this drag & drop, click and go world, i cant believe folks are waving the 'blu is better' flag when the technology is soo poorly implemented.<br>Long live Beta, er, I mean DVD !! Kevin,

That was an awesome summary of the BluRay technology and functionality. In this drag & drop, click and go world, i cant believe folks are waving the 'blu is better' flag when the technology is soo poorly implemented.
Long live Beta, er, I mean DVD !!

]]> By: tylerdurden1681 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-158776 tylerdurden1681 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:38:35 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-158776 And those are all great reasons why 1. I never bought a Blu-ray player, I got one as a gift. 2. I only have bought three Blu-rays movies in the year that I have had it. I just got the essentials (The Road Warrior, The Dark Knight, and Friday the 13th) cause who can really afford $29.99 for movies these days? The only other blu-ray movie I might buy this year would be Trick r Treat which comes out next month. And those are all great reasons why 1. I never bought a Blu-ray player, I got one as a gift. 2. I only have bought three Blu-rays movies in the year that I have had it. I just got the essentials (The Road Warrior, The Dark Knight, and Friday the 13th) cause who can really afford $29.99 for movies these days? The only other blu-ray movie I might buy this year would be Trick r Treat which comes out next month.

]]> By: jpbazinet http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-158777 jpbazinet Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:10:47 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-158777 Although you're right about the 'features' not being a big incentive, picture-wise DVD to Blu-ray is a much greater leap than VHS to DVD was.<br>VHS is roughly equivalent to 333x480 pixels. DVD is 720x480.<br>Blu-ray is 1920x1080, roughly five times higher than DVD. Although you're right about the 'features' not being a big incentive, picture-wise DVD to Blu-ray is a much greater leap than VHS to DVD was.
VHS is roughly equivalent to 333×480 pixels. DVD is 720×480.
Blu-ray is 1920×1080, roughly five times higher than DVD.

]]> By: kheas http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229129 kheas Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:28:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229129 i see your point about compression. there would be some loss now, but look at the jump from VHS to DVD in space saving. an entire season of a tv show took upwards to 30 tapes but with DVD you get 4-7 discs depending on the season length. Shouldn't we see the same type of leap with Blu-ray. I think the tech is there to have both great quality, extra features and fewer discs its just that no one is using it. not only that but it feels we are stepping backwards. Basically put, no special features on VHS: lots of special features on DVD: very few special features on blu-ray. Then again, to contradict myself, early DVD's had little to n o special features, maybe we have just gotten a bit spoiled... i see your point about compression. there would be some loss now, but look at the jump from VHS to DVD in space saving. an entire season of a tv show took upwards to 30 tapes but with DVD you get 4-7 discs depending on the season length. Shouldn’t we see the same type of leap with Blu-ray. I think the tech is there to have both great quality, extra features and fewer discs its just that no one is using it.

not only that but it feels we are stepping backwards. Basically put, no special features on VHS: lots of special features on DVD: very few special features on blu-ray.
Then again, to contradict myself, early DVD’s had little to n o special features, maybe we have just gotten a bit spoiled…

]]> By: RobertFure http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-154543 RobertFure Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:17:25 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-154543 You should try to return or sell your Blu-ray player and get the PS3 Slim in September for $300. Most of your problems will go away, but I do agree that menu navigation can be confusing on all discs. The PS3 actually makes that a little worse sometimes, as you don't select with "Play" but rather the PS3 button itself (if you buy the bluetooth remote). Using the controller is a pain in the ass. You should try to return or sell your Blu-ray player and get the PS3 Slim in September for $300. Most of your problems will go away, but I do agree that menu navigation can be confusing on all discs. The PS3 actually makes that a little worse sometimes, as you don't select with “Play” but rather the PS3 button itself (if you buy the bluetooth remote). Using the controller is a pain in the ass.

]]> By: RobertFure http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-154544 RobertFure Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:14:21 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-154544 You shouldn't want fewer discs. Fewer discs = more compression. DVD has a maximum resolution of 720x480 (without loss of quality) where as Blu-ray is 1920x1080 . So while the Blu-ray disc has more space, the Blu-ray episode takes up more space. If you put on standard definition video, you could fit 10x the information (about) onto the BD, but you wouldn't have HD. <br><br>So don't consider Blu-ray as holding more episodes, consider it as holding more information - which includes more picture and sound information. The disc doesn't magically make something look better, it just has a lot of room to add in more picture and sound info. You should upgrade soon - like this winter. I say pick up the PS3 Slim ($300) as the Playstation 3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market, because it is actually beyond just a player - its an entertainment computer that will always be able to upgrade its software infinitely. <br><br>Plus, BD costs are coming down. Average sale price of something in first week release is $40 for a tv series and $24 for a movie, which compares to DVDs at $34 for TV and $19 for a movie, roughly. You shouldn't want fewer discs. Fewer discs = more compression. DVD has a maximum resolution of 720×480 (without loss of quality) where as Blu-ray is 1920×1080 . So while the Blu-ray disc has more space, the Blu-ray episode takes up more space. If you put on standard definition video, you could fit 10x the information (about) onto the BD, but you wouldn't have HD.

So don't consider Blu-ray as holding more episodes, consider it as holding more information – which includes more picture and sound information. The disc doesn't magically make something look better, it just has a lot of room to add in more picture and sound info. You should upgrade soon – like this winter. I say pick up the PS3 Slim ($300) as the Playstation 3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market, because it is actually beyond just a player – its an entertainment computer that will always be able to upgrade its software infinitely.

Plus, BD costs are coming down. Average sale price of something in first week release is $40 for a tv series and $24 for a movie, which compares to DVDs at $34 for TV and $19 for a movie, roughly.

]]> By: RobertFure http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-154542 RobertFure Fri, 21 Aug 2009 23:04:07 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-154542 That is the funniest thing you've ever typed. That is the funniest thing you've ever typed.

]]> By: eDub http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229125 eDub Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:48:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229125 Maybe you should get a better BR player? I never experience that kind of lag and I use a PS3. Maybe you should get a better BR player? I never experience that kind of lag and I use a PS3.

]]> By: !_! http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229124 !_! Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:42:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229124 to save money, the reason the tv box sets come in 2-3 discs is becuase they are in a singel layer instead of a dual layer, just like dvd to save money, the reason the tv box sets come in 2-3 discs is becuase they are in a singel layer instead of a dual layer, just like dvd

]]> By: !_! http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147366 !_! Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:39:42 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147366 blu ray is just faster and better on ps3, ur better off just getting the ps3 instead of a standard bluray player. blu ray is just faster and better on ps3, ur better off just getting the ps3 instead of a standard bluray player.

]]> By: RobertFure http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147336 RobertFure Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:17:25 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147336 You should try to return or sell your Blu-ray player and get the PS3 Slim in September for $300. Most of your problems will go away, but I do agree that menu navigation can be confusing on all discs. The PS3 actually makes that a little worse sometimes, as you don't select with "Play" but rather the PS3 button itself (if you buy the bluetooth remote). Using the controller is a pain in the ass. You should try to return or sell your Blu-ray player and get the PS3 Slim in September for $300. Most of your problems will go away, but I do agree that menu navigation can be confusing on all discs. The PS3 actually makes that a little worse sometimes, as you don't select with “Play” but rather the PS3 button itself (if you buy the bluetooth remote). Using the controller is a pain in the ass.

]]> By: RobertFure http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147335 RobertFure Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:14:21 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147335 You shouldn't want fewer discs. Fewer discs = more compression. DVD has a maximum resolution of 720x480 (without loss of quality) where as Blu-ray is 1920x1080 . So while the Blu-ray disc has more space, the Blu-ray episode takes up more space. If you put on standard definition video, you could fit 10x the information (about) onto the BD, but you wouldn't have HD. <br><br>So don't consider Blu-ray as holding more episodes, consider it as holding more information - which includes more picture and sound information. The disc doesn't magically make something look better, it just has a lot of room to add in more picture and sound info. You should upgrade soon - like this winter. I say pick up the PS3 Slim ($300) as the Playstation 3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market, because it is actually beyond just a player - its an entertainment computer that will always be able to upgrade its software infinitely. <br><br>Plus, BD costs are coming down. Average sale price of something in first week release is $40 for a tv series and $24 for a movie, which compares to DVDs at $34 for TV and $19 for a movie, roughly. You shouldn't want fewer discs. Fewer discs = more compression. DVD has a maximum resolution of 720×480 (without loss of quality) where as Blu-ray is 1920×1080 . So while the Blu-ray disc has more space, the Blu-ray episode takes up more space. If you put on standard definition video, you could fit 10x the information (about) onto the BD, but you wouldn't have HD.

So don't consider Blu-ray as holding more episodes, consider it as holding more information – which includes more picture and sound information. The disc doesn't magically make something look better, it just has a lot of room to add in more picture and sound info. You should upgrade soon – like this winter. I say pick up the PS3 Slim ($300) as the Playstation 3 is the best Blu-ray player on the market, because it is actually beyond just a player – its an entertainment computer that will always be able to upgrade its software infinitely.

Plus, BD costs are coming down. Average sale price of something in first week release is $40 for a tv series and $24 for a movie, which compares to DVDs at $34 for TV and $19 for a movie, roughly.

]]> By: RobertFure http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147333 RobertFure Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:04:07 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147333 That is the funniest thing you've ever typed. That is the funniest thing you've ever typed.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229121 Anonymous Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:14:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229121 Great Post. Blu-Ray is the format that costs more, offers less selection, and complicates viewing with the headaches you enumerate. Once I get a larger screen TV, I've decided I'll get an up-converter DVD player. And be very happy for it. The problem with Blu-Ray is that it doesn't represent the feaures/benefit leap that DVD was compared to VHS. The "installed base" of DVD users are content. They don't have major pain points that make them want to upgrade to a format where the movies are fewer and more expensive and the players themselves are double or triple the price, even at $150. Great Post.
Blu-Ray is the format that costs more, offers less selection, and complicates viewing with the headaches you enumerate.
Once I get a larger screen TV, I’ve decided I’ll get an up-converter DVD player. And be very happy for it.
The problem with Blu-Ray is that it doesn’t represent the feaures/benefit leap that DVD was compared to VHS. The “installed base” of DVD users are content. They don’t have major pain points that make them want to upgrade to a format where the movies are fewer and more expensive and the players themselves are double or triple the price, even at $150.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229120 Anonymous Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:13:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229120 Great Post. Blu-Ray is the format that costs more, offers less selection, and complicates viewing with the headaches you enumerate. Once I get a larger screen TV, I've decided I'll get an up-converter DVD player. And be very happy for it. The problem with Blu-Ray is that it doesn't represent the feaures/benefit leap that DVD was compared to VHS. The "installed base" of DVD users are content. They don't have major pain points that make them want to upgrade to a format where the movies are fewer and more expensive and the players themselves are double or triple the price, even at $150. Great Post.
Blu-Ray is the format that costs more, offers less selection, and complicates viewing with the headaches you enumerate.
Once I get a larger screen TV, I’ve decided I’ll get an up-converter DVD player. And be very happy for it.
The problem with Blu-Ray is that it doesn’t represent the feaures/benefit leap that DVD was compared to VHS. The “installed base” of DVD users are content. They don’t have major pain points that make them want to upgrade to a format where the movies are fewer and more expensive and the players themselves are double or triple the price, even at $150.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229119 Anonymous Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:13:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229119 Great Post. Blu-Ray is the format that costs more, offers less selection, and complicates viewing with the headaches you enumerate. Once I get a larger screen TV, I've decided I'll get an up-converter DVD player. And be very happy for it. The problem with Blu-Ray is that it doesn't represent the feaures/benefit leap that DVD was compared to VHS. The "installed base" of DVD users are content. They don't have major pain points that make them want to upgrade to a format where the movies are fewer and more expensive and the players themselves are double or triple the price, even at $150. Great Post.
Blu-Ray is the format that costs more, offers less selection, and complicates viewing with the headaches you enumerate.
Once I get a larger screen TV, I’ve decided I’ll get an up-converter DVD player. And be very happy for it.
The problem with Blu-Ray is that it doesn’t represent the feaures/benefit leap that DVD was compared to VHS. The “installed base” of DVD users are content. They don’t have major pain points that make them want to upgrade to a format where the movies are fewer and more expensive and the players themselves are double or triple the price, even at $150.

]]> By: Jack http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-229118 Jack Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:22:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-229118 I'm afraid it's the player. For sane prices, the PS3 is absolutely unrivalled in speed. @ Kheas - only a -dual-layered- BRD can be called 10x the size of a -single-layered- DVD. However complaints about why the number of discs are increasing are missing the point that 1920x1080 video is precisely -5 times- the resolution of a PAL DVD and slightly more for an NTSC. The audio is also obviously of a far higher fidelity. I’m afraid it’s the player. For sane prices, the PS3 is absolutely unrivalled in speed.

@ Kheas – only a -dual-layered- BRD can be called 10x the size of a -single-layered- DVD. However complaints about why the number of discs are increasing are missing the point that 1920×1080 video is precisely -5 times- the resolution of a PAL DVD and slightly more for an NTSC. The audio is also obviously of a far higher fidelity.

]]> By: KevinCarr http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147326 KevinCarr Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:18:37 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147326 You are probably right. I have a Sony, which is usually a good brand. I should have gone with the PS3. You are probably right. I have a Sony, which is usually a good brand. I should have gone with the PS3.

]]> By: joshi38 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147323 joshi38 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:48:30 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147323 Accidentally?! I bought it on purpose when I was young and damned proud I am of myself now. ;) Accidentally?! I bought it on purpose when I was young and damned proud I am of myself now. ;)

]]> By: Stan http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/wtf-blu-ray-blues.php/comment-page-1#comment-147322 Stan Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:44:49 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=51213#comment-147322 I agree with many of your comments. My biggest gripe is the inability to resume a movie where you left off if you stop a BD disk. It appears this only affects Java-enabled disks. I have been able to resume a lot of BD disks, but none of the disks that have BD-Live features will resume. This is a definite step backward - not being able to restart a disk where you stopped it is very annoying! Very, very, VERY annoying!<br><br>Some of your gripes have been addressed by the newest generation of BD players. Most new ones now have acceptable load times, and most contain 1 GB of storage now, too. But I agree with your comment about BD-LIve overall; that is a feature that has yet to provide any value, in my opinion. I agree with many of your comments. My biggest gripe is the inability to resume a movie where you left off if you stop a BD disk. It appears this only affects Java-enabled disks. I have been able to resume a lot of BD disks, but none of the disks that have BD-Live features will resume. This is a definite step backward – not being able to restart a disk where you stopped it is very annoying! Very, very, VERY annoying!

Some of your gripes have been addressed by the newest generation of BD players. Most new ones now have acceptable load times, and most contain 1 GB of storage now, too. But I agree with your comment about BD-LIve overall; that is a feature that has yet to provide any value, in my opinion.

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