Comments on: Why Variety is Wrong (and Right) About Film Blogs http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php A Website About Movies Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:57:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: purchase land http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-140621 purchase land Tue, 19 May 2009 01:30:31 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-140621 Blogs are a direct threat to Variety as it eats into their revenue if people read them instead. Blogs are a direct threat to Variety as it eats into their revenue if people read them instead.

]]> By: purchase land http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221687 purchase land Tue, 19 May 2009 01:30:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221687 Blogs are a direct threat to Variety as it eats into their revenue if people read them instead. Blogs are a direct threat to Variety as it eats into their revenue if people read them instead.

]]> By: flameyheadgear http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135781 flameyheadgear Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:11:06 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135781 Variety's opinion is of absolutely no consequence. Actually, how little their opinion matters is laughable. Newspapers and magazines are folding because readers have more choices and less money. Perhaps these choices are not being made carefully in all cases, but the effect of the Internet differs radically from the effect of any past medium in that it is limitless, easy and inexpensive, both for a writer and a reader. Journalists have traditionally and arrogantly been the whole and complete authority, but there's a very real and solid power being wielded by people who are not really part of the old machine. Some of these people are careful and thoughtful observers (like you, Cole), some are idiots and bullshit artists. It's all out there, for better or for worse. Variety's opinion is of absolutely no consequence. Actually, how little their opinion matters is laughable. Newspapers and magazines are folding because readers have more choices and less money. Perhaps these choices are not being made carefully in all cases, but the effect of the Internet differs radically from the effect of any past medium in that it is limitless, easy and inexpensive, both for a writer and a reader. Journalists have traditionally and arrogantly been the whole and complete authority, but there's a very real and solid power being wielded by people who are not really part of the old machine. Some of these people are careful and thoughtful observers (like you, Cole), some are idiots and bullshit artists.

It's all out there, for better or for worse.

]]> By: flameyheadgear http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221686 flameyheadgear Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:11:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221686 Variety's opinion is of absolutely no consequence. Actually, how little their opinion matters is laughable. Newspapers and magazines are folding because readers have more choices and less money. Perhaps these choices are not being made carefully in all cases, but the effect of the Internet differs radically from the effect of any past medium in that it is limitless, easy and inexpensive, both for a writer and a reader. Journalists have traditionally and arrogantly been the whole and complete authority, but there's a very real and solid power being wielded by people who are not really part of the old machine. Some of these people are careful and thoughtful observers (like you, Cole), some are idiots and bullshit artists. It's all out there, for better or for worse. Variety's opinion is of absolutely no consequence. Actually, how little their opinion matters is laughable. Newspapers and magazines are folding because readers have more choices and less money. Perhaps these choices are not being made carefully in all cases, but the effect of the Internet differs radically from the effect of any past medium in that it is limitless, easy and inexpensive, both for a writer and a reader. Journalists have traditionally and arrogantly been the whole and complete authority, but there's a very real and solid power being wielded by people who are not really part of the old machine. Some of these people are careful and thoughtful observers (like you, Cole), some are idiots and bullshit artists.

It's all out there, for better or for worse.

]]> By: Loukas http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135557 Loukas Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:34:13 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135557 Journalism is not a science. You can't be a mathematician without a degree in mathematics but you can damn well be a journalist with no degree at all. Whether you're good, bad or average, whether you check your facts or have a solid opinion on the things you report, will come out eventually out of your body of work. That the information sources become more and more everyday doesn't mean that the bulk of information grows along. As it becomes more difficult to follow everybody that reports stuff --and basically the exact same, usually clearly pompus and unimportant, stuff -- people will become less open in new sources and will rely on less and less of those available, thus reversing the internet's greatest asset, plurality. On top of that a new system of mainstream information gateways will be formed out of what's popular and what the sources believe will interest and attract most readers. It's already formed. That's a drawback, not a progress of any kind and it doesn't, by no means, help towards an open information society. As for blogging that's just another term for talking in public, only this time the public sphere is a lot larger than our local cafeteria and the talkers become professionals thus they have more at stake than just looking foolish. Subsequently the voices will be more and will eventually compete in terms of loudness instead of logic argument or solid opinion. Still, there will be those who will try to do the latter and those are the people a true reader will look for. In their core things are no different than with the arrival of any new unexplored medium of communication. And bullshit remain bullshit no matter what one calls them. Journalism is not a science. You can't be a mathematician without a degree in mathematics but you can damn well be a journalist with no degree at all. Whether you're good, bad or average, whether you check your facts or have a solid opinion on the things you report, will come out eventually out of your body of work.

That the information sources become more and more everyday doesn't mean that the bulk of information grows along. As it becomes more difficult to follow everybody that reports stuff –and basically the exact same, usually clearly pompus and unimportant, stuff — people will become less open in new sources and will rely on less and less of those available, thus reversing the internet's greatest asset, plurality. On top of that a new system of mainstream information gateways will be formed out of what's popular and what the sources believe will interest and attract most readers. It's already formed. That's a drawback, not a progress of any kind and it doesn't, by no means, help towards an open information society.

As for blogging that's just another term for talking in public, only this time the public sphere is a lot larger than our local cafeteria and the talkers become professionals thus they have more at stake than just looking foolish. Subsequently the voices will be more and will eventually compete in terms of loudness instead of logic argument or solid opinion. Still, there will be those who will try to do the latter and those are the people a true reader will look for.

In their core things are no different than with the arrival of any new unexplored medium of communication. And bullshit remain bullshit no matter what one calls them.

]]> By: Loukas http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221685 Loukas Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:34:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221685 Journalism is not a science. You can't be a mathematician without a degree in mathematics but you can damn well be a journalist with no degree at all. Whether you're good, bad or average, whether you check your facts or have a solid opinion on the things you report, will come out eventually out of your body of work. That the information sources become more and more everyday doesn't mean that the bulk of information grows along. As it becomes more difficult to follow everybody that reports stuff --and basically the exact same, usually clearly pompus and unimportant, stuff -- people will become less open in new sources and will rely on less and less of those available, thus reversing the internet's greatest asset, plurality. On top of that a new system of mainstream information gateways will be formed out of what's popular and what the sources believe will interest and attract most readers. It's already formed. That's a drawback, not a progress of any kind and it doesn't, by no means, help towards an open information society. As for blogging that's just another term for talking in public, only this time the public sphere is a lot larger than our local cafeteria and the talkers become professionals thus they have more at stake than just looking foolish. Subsequently the voices will be more and will eventually compete in terms of loudness instead of logic argument or solid opinion. Still, there will be those who will try to do the latter and those are the people a true reader will look for. In their core things are no different than with the arrival of any new unexplored medium of communication. And bullshit remain bullshit no matter what one calls them. Journalism is not a science. You can't be a mathematician without a degree in mathematics but you can damn well be a journalist with no degree at all. Whether you're good, bad or average, whether you check your facts or have a solid opinion on the things you report, will come out eventually out of your body of work.

That the information sources become more and more everyday doesn't mean that the bulk of information grows along. As it becomes more difficult to follow everybody that reports stuff –and basically the exact same, usually clearly pompus and unimportant, stuff — people will become less open in new sources and will rely on less and less of those available, thus reversing the internet's greatest asset, plurality. On top of that a new system of mainstream information gateways will be formed out of what's popular and what the sources believe will interest and attract most readers. It's already formed. That's a drawback, not a progress of any kind and it doesn't, by no means, help towards an open information society.

As for blogging that's just another term for talking in public, only this time the public sphere is a lot larger than our local cafeteria and the talkers become professionals thus they have more at stake than just looking foolish. Subsequently the voices will be more and will eventually compete in terms of loudness instead of logic argument or solid opinion. Still, there will be those who will try to do the latter and those are the people a true reader will look for.

In their core things are no different than with the arrival of any new unexplored medium of communication. And bullshit remain bullshit no matter what one calls them.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135504 Concerned Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:05:25 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135504 Please calm down, you're scaring us all. Please calm down, you're scaring us all.

]]> By: Concerned http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221684 Concerned Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:05:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221684 Please calm down, you're scaring us all. Please calm down, you're scaring us all.

]]> By: FilmmakingStuff http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135497 FilmmakingStuff Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:05:35 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135497 When I got started in this industry, all the information was provided by people who seemed so out of reach and out of touch with those of us out there who needed to know more. Blogs offer a great alternative to the mainstream... Or rather, they are the new mainstream. From the big conglomerate perspective, I would say that blogs offer a nice dose of competition. When I got started in this industry, all the information was provided by people who seemed so out of reach and out of touch with those of us out there who needed to know more. Blogs offer a great alternative to the mainstream… Or rather, they are the new mainstream. From the big conglomerate perspective, I would say that blogs offer a nice dose of competition.

]]> By: FilmmakingStuff http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221683 FilmmakingStuff Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:05:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221683 When I got started in this industry, all the information was provided by people who seemed so out of reach and out of touch with those of us out there who needed to know more. Blogs offer a great alternative to the mainstream... Or rather, they are the new mainstream. From the big conglomerate perspective, I would say that blogs offer a nice dose of competition. When I got started in this industry, all the information was provided by people who seemed so out of reach and out of touch with those of us out there who needed to know more. Blogs offer a great alternative to the mainstream… Or rather, they are the new mainstream. From the big conglomerate perspective, I would say that blogs offer a nice dose of competition.

]]> By: Wholly Moley http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135411 Wholly Moley Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:48:33 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135411 It was the Chicago Tribune, not the New York Times. And it was 1948, not "back in the 50s." (Hence "Dewey Beats Truman," not "Stevenson Beats Eisenhower.") Your point, if you had one, was lost in your unresearched analogy. It was the Chicago Tribune, not the New York Times.

And it was 1948, not "back in the 50s." (Hence "Dewey Beats Truman," not "Stevenson Beats Eisenhower.")

Your point, if you had one, was lost in your unresearched analogy.

]]> By: Wholly Moley http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221682 Wholly Moley Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:48:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221682 It was the Chicago Tribune, not the New York Times. And it was 1948, not "back in the 50s." (Hence "Dewey Beats Truman," not "Stevenson Beats Eisenhower.") Your point, if you had one, was lost in your unresearched analogy. It was the Chicago Tribune, not the New York Times.

And it was 1948, not "back in the 50s." (Hence "Dewey Beats Truman," not "Stevenson Beats Eisenhower.")

Your point, if you had one, was lost in your unresearched analogy.

]]> By: Cole_Abaius http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135156 Cole_Abaius Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:16 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135156 I only hope so. And that time they'll include the awesome robot dog from the original movie. Fingers crossed. I only hope so. And that time they'll include the awesome robot dog from the original movie. Fingers crossed.

]]> By: Cole_Abaius http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221681 Cole_Abaius Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221681 I only hope so. And that time they'll include the awesome robot dog from the original movie. Fingers crossed. I only hope so. And that time they'll include the awesome robot dog from the original movie. Fingers crossed.

]]> By: Sam_isusingan_ http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135151 Sam_isusingan_ Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:20:32 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135151 I think the reason that blogs are so popular is because of the interaction between the audience and the author. We can have in-depth conversations, however joke filled, about the subject. But like you said, that does raise the issue of "us" deciding what is newsworthy, which can lead to the rumour-monging. It can also lead to incredibly frustrating weeks where all that is seeming newsworthy is a video of christian bale getting angry at the workplace. The blogging world is a mixture of "legitimate" journalism and the office watercooler. I use legitimate in quotation marks because since journalism is an industry, you get bullshit in print media too. You get slights and twists, ignoring that journalism is supposed to be the Fifth Estate. Print/Radio/TV media looks down at the blogging world because it's new (as Fure said, they have a history of doing this) and because it threatens their livelihood. These are also, sometimes, people who have degrees in journalism or communications, and are uncomfortable with the blogger the same way they'd be uncomfortable with a new anchor/reporter/journalist who has no background and is suddenly in the limelight. Let the ol' crones complain all they want. Keep voicing your opinions, keep the humour coming, and keep interesting news coming and you'll keep me coming back. I think the reason that blogs are so popular is because of the interaction between the audience and the author. We can have in-depth conversations, however joke filled, about the subject. But like you said, that does raise the issue of "us" deciding what is newsworthy, which can lead to the rumour-monging. It can also lead to incredibly frustrating weeks where all that is seeming newsworthy is a video of christian bale getting angry at the workplace.

The blogging world is a mixture of "legitimate" journalism and the office watercooler. I use legitimate in quotation marks because since journalism is an industry, you get bullshit in print media too. You get slights and twists, ignoring that journalism is supposed to be the Fifth Estate.

Print/Radio/TV media looks down at the blogging world because it's new (as Fure said, they have a history of doing this) and because it threatens their livelihood. These are also, sometimes, people who have degrees in journalism or communications, and are uncomfortable with the blogger the same way they'd be uncomfortable with a new anchor/reporter/journalist who has no background and is suddenly in the limelight. Let the ol' crones complain all they want. Keep voicing your opinions, keep the humour coming, and keep interesting news coming and you'll keep me coming back.

]]> By: Sam_isusingan_ http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221679 Sam_isusingan_ Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:20:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221679 I think the reason that blogs are so popular is because of the interaction between the audience and the author. We can have in-depth conversations, however joke filled, about the subject. But like you said, that does raise the issue of "us" deciding what is newsworthy, which can lead to the rumour-monging. It can also lead to incredibly frustrating weeks where all that is seeming newsworthy is a video of christian bale getting angry at the workplace. The blogging world is a mixture of "legitimate" journalism and the office watercooler. I use legitimate in quotation marks because since journalism is an industry, you get bullshit in print media too. You get slights and twists, ignoring that journalism is supposed to be the Fifth Estate. Print/Radio/TV media looks down at the blogging world because it's new (as Fure said, they have a history of doing this) and because it threatens their livelihood. These are also, sometimes, people who have degrees in journalism or communications, and are uncomfortable with the blogger the same way they'd be uncomfortable with a new anchor/reporter/journalist who has no background and is suddenly in the limelight. Let the ol' crones complain all they want. Keep voicing your opinions, keep the humour coming, and keep interesting news coming and you'll keep me coming back. I think the reason that blogs are so popular is because of the interaction between the audience and the author. We can have in-depth conversations, however joke filled, about the subject. But like you said, that does raise the issue of "us" deciding what is newsworthy, which can lead to the rumour-monging. It can also lead to incredibly frustrating weeks where all that is seeming newsworthy is a video of christian bale getting angry at the workplace.

The blogging world is a mixture of "legitimate" journalism and the office watercooler. I use legitimate in quotation marks because since journalism is an industry, you get bullshit in print media too. You get slights and twists, ignoring that journalism is supposed to be the Fifth Estate.

Print/Radio/TV media looks down at the blogging world because it's new (as Fure said, they have a history of doing this) and because it threatens their livelihood. These are also, sometimes, people who have degrees in journalism or communications, and are uncomfortable with the blogger the same way they'd be uncomfortable with a new anchor/reporter/journalist who has no background and is suddenly in the limelight. Let the ol' crones complain all they want. Keep voicing your opinions, keep the humour coming, and keep interesting news coming and you'll keep me coming back.

]]> By: John Mason http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135134 John Mason Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:54 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135134 Wow, makes sense to me. Well done! RT <a href="http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc" target="_blank">www.online-privacy.pro.tc</a> Wow, makes sense to me. Well done!

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]]> By: Evan Buck http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-135133 Evan Buck Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:20 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-135133 As long as I don't have to pay for the material, I am game ;) As long as I don't have to pay for the material, I am game ;)

]]> By: Evan Buck http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221677 Evan Buck Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221677 As long as I don't have to pay for the material, I am game ;) As long as I don't have to pay for the material, I am game ;)

]]> By: John Mason http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/why-variety-is-wrong-and-right-about-film-blogs.php/comment-page-1#comment-221678 John Mason Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:35:00 +0000 http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/?p=36974#comment-221678 Wow, makes sense to me. Well done! RT <a href="http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc" rel="nofollow">www.online-privacy.pro.tc</a> Wow, makes sense to me. Well done!

RT
http://www.online-privacy.pro.tc

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