Discuss: Do Spoilers Make You Cool or Ruin Movies?

Posted by Dr. Cole Abaius (cole.abaius@filmschoolrejects.com) on April 21, 2009

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There are only two difficult things about my job. One is the rash that I get from wearing pajama pants all day. The other is navigating the razor-thin world of spoilers – making sure that I leave out spoilers whenever possible and properly warning readers when spoilers can’t be avoided. Sometimes I succeed. Sometimes I receive angry emails.

According to G.I. Joe – knowing is half the battle. According the the recent article for Wired written by J.J. Abrams, knowing is what destroys experience. I highly suggest you go read the full article. It’s well written and insightful, although some would take issue with his main points. The money quote here:

People often ask me how Lost is going to end. I usually tell them to ask Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, who run that series. But I always wonder, do they really want to know? And what if I did tell them? They might have an aha moment, but without context. Especially since the final episode is a year away. That is to say, the experience—the setup for a joke’s punch line, the buildup to a magic trick’s big flourish—is as much of a thrill as the result. There’s discovery to be made and wonder to be had on the journey that not only enrich the ending but in many ways define it.

Here’s where we can divide the world into two easy groups – the people that wish you’d tell them how the magic trick is done and those that go to the magic store to actually find out.

Clearly, I’ve always been in the latter group (even when it comes to magic) since I spend most of my life wading through movie news. I do my best to avoid any true spoilers, but even something as simple as knowing who gets cast in a sequel can be a spoiler as to who doesn’t survive a flick.

I like knowing. I like being ahead of the curve. Yes, I admit that part of the appeal is feeling in on something before everyone else. That’s what’s cool about knowing spoilers, right? Being ahead of the average joe, having inside knowledge.

But the experience of movies is far more important than that. The journey is what matters – and knowing where that journey leads before taking the first step can change or dilute the sensation.

That doesn’t stop us from trolling the web daily for information on movies that we get excited about. So it makes me wonder, as a culture of people that check out movie blogs and movie sites with regularity – are we seated firmly in the group that relishes in the awe of the magic trick or in the group who needs to know how it’s done? And does being in either group discount a love of film?

What do you think?


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  • Depends on the movie. Take Lord of the Rings. I didn't even read the books till after each movie was released so I wouldn't know what was happening. But take a movie like Monty Python & the Holy Grail. My friends quoted that so much before I saw it that I practically knew the whole movie. But I still enjoyed it immensely.
  • I think your basic analogy is flawed... there's a third group to consider here. Some of us like to experience the awe of the magic trick THEN find out how it's done. Yes I realize that this third group doesn't fit so easily into your movie metaphor, but honestly the other two don't either.
  • Deadcowporn
    Gabriel Byrne apparantly thought he was Keyser Soze until he saw the finished product. Bet he enjoyed the hell out of that twist.
  • Tenika
    Honestly I wish people wouldn't post spoilers because as of yet I have not figured out how to not click on the links and read them :(
  • I personally want to be kept in the dark, I hate major spoilers, but I'm also finding myself wishing I didn't know little things about the movies. I wish I didn't read about movies as much as I do, knowing so much about the pre-release issues/casting decisions/ratings appeals is kind of ruining the enjoyment of some of the movies I look forward to.

    But if I did stop reading about movies then I'd actually have to focus on school, and that is just unacceptable.
  • Shyasmalon
    I think it depends on the show/movie being spoiled. When the Harry Potter books were coming out, watching people spoil that Snape kills Dumbledoor was hilarious, because the books are wish fulfillment trash and a poor excuse for book binding. The recent "Wolverine" movie spoilers? Who cares? More and more, movies and stories are relying on "twists," and when you get down to it, a twist is just a gimmick. A good writer can tell a story without relying too heavily on them. Titanic: we all know the boat sinks, it doesn't ruin the story because we knew about it before. Passion of the Christ: everyone knows Jesus dies, but people still went to go see it. Long before the third Lord of the Rings movie, I saw graffiti saying "Frodo Lives!" and it didn't ruin the movie for me.
  • Spoilers absolutely ruin movies.

    I'll take it one step farther...most TRAILERS ruin movies.

    If there's something coming that I know I'll more than likely go see, I go on complete blackout for months before the movie comes out. I'll go as far as to close my eyes in the theater to avoid a trailer. If it's something I might enjoy mostly for the eye candy in particular...the trailer will more than likely serve up the tasty nougat center almost in it's entirety, ruining the whole thing.

    A completely perfect example is 'Transformers 2'...I'm sure someone will drag me to see it...and if the stuff between the eye candy is as bad as the first one, the big effects sequences will be the only redeeming quality.

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    One more thing...referencing what MrDeath said up there. I started doing this after seeing 'Fellowship of the Ring'. I didn't really know anything about it, and in fact thought we were going to see a live action version of 'The Hobbit', which I was familiar with and was freaked out by the name 'Bilbo'. So going in fresh, with no expectations at all allowed the movie to kick my ass in a way it hadn't been kicked since I was a kid. So, the less you can know, the better I say.
  • dionfly
    I am so glad to know that you go into "blackout" mode. I do the same thing. I have an above-average visual memory and so if I see something in the trailer and I know it hasn't occurred yet, I'm waiting for it and not engaged like I'd rather be.
  • Ann
    As expensive as movies have gotten lately, please spoil them so I know if I should blow $10 to see them in theaters...
  • Good topic, Cole.

    Hitchcock got attention by unspoilerizing Psycho. He sent public word that nobody was allowed in after the picture started. Critics were asked to keep the ending secret, which hampered the reviews but intrigued moviegoers who joined in the conspiracy.
    A good approach which worked, at least back then.

    Could he do that today? Dunno. But the best bits are in the trailers and in our imaginations ... it takes a really good film to supersede what we already have seen on the net or in our fertile minds.

    Except 24. There's a real opinion division -- some fans turn their TVs off right after the ep ends so they don't see any of next week's appetite-whetting scenes. Not me. I can't wait a week to find out if Jack lives another hour.
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