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	<title>Comments on: Culture Warrior: Digital Cinematography in Hollywood</title>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  While much of the digital vs. film argument boils down to opinion you do make several bizarre statements.

1.  Digital does not have a &quot;particularly vivid capacity for color&quot; over film
-Film has a much larger color space available in the negative.  

1.  Digital does not produce a &quot;detailed depth of field&quot;
-That&#039;s just not how any cinematographer would describe DOF.  It can be shallow, deep or anywhere in between, but this is related to the format size (sensor or film size), lens focal length, f-stop, and distance to subject.  It has nothing to do with digital capture or celluloid.  Yes, many digital sensors are smaller in size than a 35mm frame, but deep depth of field can be created through technical decisions like using a faster film stock and stopping down.  Or using a wider lens.  Or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While much of the digital vs. film argument boils down to opinion you do make several bizarre statements.</p>
<p>1.  Digital does not have a &#8220;particularly vivid capacity for color&#8221; over film<br />
-Film has a much larger color space available in the negative.  </p>
<p>1.  Digital does not produce a &#8220;detailed depth of field&#8221;<br />
-That&#8217;s just not how any cinematographer would describe DOF.  It can be shallow, deep or anywhere in between, but this is related to the format size (sensor or film size), lens focal length, f-stop, and distance to subject.  It has nothing to do with digital capture or celluloid.  Yes, many digital sensors are smaller in size than a 35mm frame, but deep depth of field can be created through technical decisions like using a faster film stock and stopping down.  Or using a wider lens.  Or both.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkMushakian</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/culture-warrior-digital-cinematography-in-hollywood.php/comment-page-1#comment-153924</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkMushakian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the first trailer for Public Enemies, which showed footage that looked as if it was shot on a home video camera, I was actually completely turned me off on the movie.  Beyond traditional visual expectations, there is an aspect of believability that I don&#039;t feel when watching a movie that LOOKS so much like it was shot on digital (as Robert Fure said).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m certain that the time period has much to do with that, as well, which is why I was still able to love Collateral so much - but even then, there were a couple of shots that took me out of it because they looked so very cheap.  There is no other way to say it, really.  It doesn&#039;t matter how much money is spent, of course, as long as the production values are strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the first trailer for Public Enemies, which showed footage that looked as if it was shot on a home video camera, I was actually completely turned me off on the movie.  Beyond traditional visual expectations, there is an aspect of believability that I don&#39;t feel when watching a movie that LOOKS so much like it was shot on digital (as Robert Fure said).</p>
<p>I&#39;m certain that the time period has much to do with that, as well, which is why I was still able to love Collateral so much &#8211; but even then, there were a couple of shots that took me out of it because they looked so very cheap.  There is no other way to say it, really.  It doesn&#39;t matter how much money is spent, of course, as long as the production values are strong.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkMushakian</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/culture-warrior-digital-cinematography-in-hollywood.php/comment-page-1#comment-145237</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkMushakian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the first trailer for Public Enemies, which showed footage that looked as if it was shot on a home video camera, I was actually completely turned me off on the movie.  Beyond traditional visual expectations, there is an aspect of believability that I don&#039;t feel when watching a movie that LOOKS so much like it was shot on digital (as Robert Fure said).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m certain that the time period has much to do with that, as well, which is why I was still able to love Collateral so much - but even then, there were a couple of shots that took me out of it because they looked so very cheap.  There is no other way to say it, really.  It doesn&#039;t matter how much money is spent, of course, as long as the production values are strong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the first trailer for Public Enemies, which showed footage that looked as if it was shot on a home video camera, I was actually completely turned me off on the movie.  Beyond traditional visual expectations, there is an aspect of believability that I don&#39;t feel when watching a movie that LOOKS so much like it was shot on digital (as Robert Fure said).</p>
<p>I&#39;m certain that the time period has much to do with that, as well, which is why I was still able to love Collateral so much &#8211; but even then, there were a couple of shots that took me out of it because they looked so very cheap.  There is no other way to say it, really.  It doesn&#39;t matter how much money is spent, of course, as long as the production values are strong.</p>
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		<title>By: onebadace</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/culture-warrior-digital-cinematography-in-hollywood.php/comment-page-1#comment-145153</link>
		<dc:creator>onebadace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the style Mann uses.  Can&#039;t wait for Frankie Machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the style Mann uses.  Can&#39;t wait for Frankie Machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Muller</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/culture-warrior-digital-cinematography-in-hollywood.php/comment-page-1#comment-144802</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t George Lucas use digital cameras for episodes 2 and 3?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#39;t George Lucas use digital cameras for episodes 2 and 3?</p>
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		<title>By: moremony services</title>
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		<dc:creator>moremony services</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miley Cyrus is Elle’s August cover girl. Miley is given a refreshingly grown-up look and chats with the magazine about being a teen star, her clothing line for Wal-Mart and (wink, wink) even Nick Jonas. Elle magazine is being super secretive about what exactly was discussed during the interview, but we’ve attached some tid-bits below.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miley Cyrus is Elle’s August cover girl. Miley is given a refreshingly grown-up look and chats with the magazine about being a teen star, her clothing line for Wal-Mart and (wink, wink) even Nick Jonas. Elle magazine is being super secretive about what exactly was discussed during the interview, but we’ve attached some tid-bits below.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole_Abaius</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/culture-warrior-digital-cinematography-in-hollywood.php/comment-page-1#comment-144763</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole_Abaius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I agree with it - but Eric from Aint It Cool made a pretty solid point on Reject Radio about the collusion of digital with a film that&#039;s a period piece. One of the issues he had with the digital aspect was simply because the time period setting of Public Enemies. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I personally liked the digital up to a certain point. I thought the shoot-out scenes were fantastic, although it seemed far too digital when the camera would pause to take a breath. And a few things were more blurry than I would have hoped. But I was never pulled out of the movie like some people were.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Give me film any day, but I foresee digital getting better and better to the point where they will be impossible to delineate between.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not sure I agree with it &#8211; but Eric from Aint It Cool made a pretty solid point on Reject Radio about the collusion of digital with a film that&#39;s a period piece. One of the issues he had with the digital aspect was simply because the time period setting of Public Enemies. </p>
<p>I personally liked the digital up to a certain point. I thought the shoot-out scenes were fantastic, although it seemed far too digital when the camera would pause to take a breath. And a few things were more blurry than I would have hoped. But I was never pulled out of the movie like some people were.</p>
<p>Give me film any day, but I foresee digital getting better and better to the point where they will be impossible to delineate between.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell Mann&#039;s movies now before I even see the credits. Call me an old fashioned blow-hard but digital just doesn&#039;t look right to me. Maybe it&#039;s the odd pixel shift in pan shots or the background motion that throws me off but I&#039;m not buying it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Collateral was a good movie and the digital aspect was evident but not to a fault. Where I was really turned off was the commercials for the Miami Vice movie, it looked &#039;too&#039; digital. So much so that I never want to see it. Maybe he has refined his digital touch as I&#039;ve only seen a couple digital moments in the trailers for his current vehicle. It is still too much for me to want to spend $10 just to enter the theatre&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like most pioneers people will scoff and sling arrows and I know he will continue to make movies the way he wants</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell Mann&#39;s movies now before I even see the credits. Call me an old fashioned blow-hard but digital just doesn&#39;t look right to me. Maybe it&#39;s the odd pixel shift in pan shots or the background motion that throws me off but I&#39;m not buying it. </p>
<p>Collateral was a good movie and the digital aspect was evident but not to a fault. Where I was really turned off was the commercials for the Miami Vice movie, it looked &#39;too&#39; digital. So much so that I never want to see it. Maybe he has refined his digital touch as I&#39;ve only seen a couple digital moments in the trailers for his current vehicle. It is still too much for me to want to spend $10 just to enter the theatre</p>
<p>Like most pioneers people will scoff and sling arrows and I know he will continue to make movies the way he wants</p>
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		<title>By: RobertFure</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertFure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a fan of Mann&#039;s decisions to let digital look like digital. Plenty of directors have shown that digital can be made to look and behave like film well within a budget - namely Robert Rodriguez, who shoots digital and makes it look awesome. Hell, the last 3 Star Wars flicks were all shot on digital.  Mann could have easily altered the look of the movie, but chose not to for better or for worse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Either way, digital is here and has been for years and will likely grow in popularity.  That said, I still prefer the film aesthetic and technically speaking, very few digital cameras (as in, approximately 1 in use and 3-4 in development) can capture an equal or higher resolution than film can - and even these models still suffer from some of the digital problems like shuttering, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not a fan of Mann&#39;s decisions to let digital look like digital. Plenty of directors have shown that digital can be made to look and behave like film well within a budget &#8211; namely Robert Rodriguez, who shoots digital and makes it look awesome. Hell, the last 3 Star Wars flicks were all shot on digital.  Mann could have easily altered the look of the movie, but chose not to for better or for worse.</p>
<p>Either way, digital is here and has been for years and will likely grow in popularity.  That said, I still prefer the film aesthetic and technically speaking, very few digital cameras (as in, approximately 1 in use and 3-4 in development) can capture an equal or higher resolution than film can &#8211; and even these models still suffer from some of the digital problems like shuttering, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: teknokracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>teknokracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if anyone told you, but depth and tone have more to do with lenses and post-production than the actual recorded medium....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if anyone told you, but depth and tone have more to do with lenses and post-production than the actual recorded medium&#8230;.</p>
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