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		<title>By: set</title>
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		<dc:creator>set</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no. i don&#039;t think i should. because film makers should make films to please the audience, to give entertainment and to inspire. not to bake an effing cheesecake or something for those film critics. and besides, it&#039;s their job to criticize, it&#039;s what they are being payed to do. so if i was a film maker, i shouldn&#039;t mind them and just do my own thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no. i don&#39;t think i should. because film makers should make films to please the audience, to give entertainment and to inspire. not to bake an effing cheesecake or something for those film critics. and besides, it&#39;s their job to criticize, it&#39;s what they are being payed to do. so if i was a film maker, i shouldn&#39;t mind them and just do my own thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Otis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Otis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All your serfs are having Baygasms.&quot; -- This type of phraseology is exactly why you&#039;re my favorite writer on this site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All your serfs are having Baygasms.&#8221; &#8212; This type of phraseology is exactly why you&#39;re my favorite writer on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Reebee7</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/boiling-point-critical-hits-misses.php/comment-page-1#comment-152991</link>
		<dc:creator>Reebee7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t imply every singly viewer that liked Transformers was stupid, just that a lot of them are. That&#039;s just fact: 80% of people are dumber than the other 20%.  My point was I would hope people who enjoyed Transformers would then get some intellectual stimulation elsewhere.  But how many kids today have seen Casablanca, we film geeks excluded?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I stated that most people I&#039;ve talked to have really hated the movie, and that at midnight on opening night it was swarming with younger kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was not saying you have to listen to critics, just that I find it odd that a movie I have heard very little good about, from critics and non-critics, is making so much money.  I never said you have to like movies only critics like. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s no need to take offense or take my post as a personal attack, and I&#039;m sorry if you feel like it was. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And where&#039;s your blog? I&#039;m always looking for another good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#39;t imply every singly viewer that liked Transformers was stupid, just that a lot of them are. That&#39;s just fact: 80% of people are dumber than the other 20%.  My point was I would hope people who enjoyed Transformers would then get some intellectual stimulation elsewhere.  But how many kids today have seen Casablanca, we film geeks excluded?</p>
<p>I stated that most people I&#39;ve talked to have really hated the movie, and that at midnight on opening night it was swarming with younger kids.</p>
<p>I was not saying you have to listen to critics, just that I find it odd that a movie I have heard very little good about, from critics and non-critics, is making so much money.  I never said you have to like movies only critics like. </p>
<p>There&#39;s no need to take offense or take my post as a personal attack, and I&#39;m sorry if you feel like it was. </p>
<p>And where&#39;s your blog? I&#39;m always looking for another good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Reebee7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reebee7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t imply every singly viewer that liked Transformers was stupid, just that a lot of them are. That&#039;s just fact: 80% of people are dumber than the other 20%.  My point was I would hope people who enjoyed Transformers would then get some intellectual stimulation elsewhere.  But how many kids today have seen Casablanca, we film geeks excluded?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I stated that most people I&#039;ve talked to have really hated the movie, and that at midnight on opening night it was swarming with younger kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was not saying you have to listen to critics, just that I find it odd that a movie I have heard very little good about, from critics and non-critics, is making so much money.  I never said you have to like movies only critics like. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s no need to take offense or take my post as a personal attack, and I&#039;m sorry if you feel like it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#39;t imply every singly viewer that liked Transformers was stupid, just that a lot of them are. That&#39;s just fact: 80% of people are dumber than the other 20%.  My point was I would hope people who enjoyed Transformers would then get some intellectual stimulation elsewhere.  But how many kids today have seen Casablanca, we film geeks excluded?</p>
<p>I stated that most people I&#39;ve talked to have really hated the movie, and that at midnight on opening night it was swarming with younger kids.</p>
<p>I was not saying you have to listen to critics, just that I find it odd that a movie I have heard very little good about, from critics and non-critics, is making so much money.  I never said you have to like movies only critics like. </p>
<p>There&#39;s no need to take offense or take my post as a personal attack, and I&#39;m sorry if you feel like it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Reebee7</title>
		<link>http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/boiling-point-critical-hits-misses.php/comment-page-1#comment-145857</link>
		<dc:creator>Reebee7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t imply every singly viewer that liked Transformers was stupid, just that a lot of them are. That&#039;s just fact: 80% of people are dumber than the other 20%.  My point was I would hope people who enjoyed Transformers would then get some intellectual stimulation elsewhere.  But how many kids today have seen Casablanca, we film geeks excluded?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I stated that most people I&#039;ve talked to have really hated the movie, and that at midnight on opening night it was swarming with younger kids.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was not saying you have to listen to critics, just that I find it odd that a movie I have heard very little good about, from critics and non-critics, is making so much money.  I never said you have to like movies only critics like. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s no need to take offense or take my post as a personal attack, and I&#039;m sorry if you feel like it was. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And where&#039;s your blog? I&#039;m always looking for another good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#39;t imply every singly viewer that liked Transformers was stupid, just that a lot of them are. That&#39;s just fact: 80% of people are dumber than the other 20%.  My point was I would hope people who enjoyed Transformers would then get some intellectual stimulation elsewhere.  But how many kids today have seen Casablanca, we film geeks excluded?</p>
<p>I stated that most people I&#39;ve talked to have really hated the movie, and that at midnight on opening night it was swarming with younger kids.</p>
<p>I was not saying you have to listen to critics, just that I find it odd that a movie I have heard very little good about, from critics and non-critics, is making so much money.  I never said you have to like movies only critics like. </p>
<p>There&#39;s no need to take offense or take my post as a personal attack, and I&#39;m sorry if you feel like it was. </p>
<p>And where&#39;s your blog? I&#39;m always looking for another good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebaxter1989</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebaxter1989</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the whole point of the post though isn&#039;t that people aren&#039;t idiots, it&#039;s that critics shouldn&#039;t think people are idiots for liking a film they didn&#039;t. Much like you shouldn&#039;t think people are idiots for liking a film you don&#039;t. 

It is possible to like both Transformers 2 and The Godfather, so is that person an idiot and smart?

I mean you say many people agree with the critics, and the flip side is many don&#039;t, and the world keeps turning. Who knew? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the whole point of the post though isn&#8217;t that people aren&#8217;t idiots, it&#8217;s that critics shouldn&#8217;t think people are idiots for liking a film they didn&#8217;t. Much like you shouldn&#8217;t think people are idiots for liking a film you don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>It is possible to like both Transformers 2 and The Godfather, so is that person an idiot and smart?</p>
<p>I mean you say many people agree with the critics, and the flip side is many don&#8217;t, and the world keeps turning. Who knew?</p>
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		<title>By: srsly</title>
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		<dc:creator>srsly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reasoning of this entire post is specious.

Statistically, in the US population
10% have an IQ of 120+ (meaning they qualify academically &amp; psychologically as intelligent to genius level people)
10% have an IQ of 80- (meaning they neurologically or developmentally handicapped)
80% have an IQ of 80-120 (meaning the mass populace is somewhere between dumb-as-bricks to borderline intelligent).

Just because Trans2 made gobs of money and is popular with the general public, doesn&#039;t mean It&#039;s not idiotic. In fact, usually movies that do extremely well with the MASS populace ARE idiotic.

It&#039;s not necessarily egotistic or insulting to give a bad review of a movie. Obviously many people agree with the critics who think the movie was moronic. You just happen to not be one of them so you are vehemently trying to defend yourself by catering to the masses by saying &quot;Hey-you&#039;re not dumb! I&#039;m with you!&quot;. A clear case of pandering in need of validation.

Get over yourself. In the end, i don&#039;t really care what the critics think - BUT i do look to them for previews of what i might expect - so i do listen to what they say - at least the intelligent ones. Asking a carte blanche question like &quot;Do you care what critics think&quot; stems from the same lowest common denominator thinking that drives Michael Bay&#039;s style.

And btw - as far as &quot;piss[ing] in [y]our punch&quot; - I may not have the right to do it literally, but i have EVERY right to do it figuratively. It&#039;s called freedom of speech - the same right that allows you to post inane articles like this one.

So - to quote your own article &quot;shut the fuck up&quot; and stop bitching because you&#039;ve been outed as an idiotic critic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reasoning of this entire post is specious.</p>
<p>Statistically, in the US population<br />
10% have an IQ of 120+ (meaning they qualify academically &amp; psychologically as intelligent to genius level people)<br />
10% have an IQ of 80- (meaning they neurologically or developmentally handicapped)<br />
80% have an IQ of 80-120 (meaning the mass populace is somewhere between dumb-as-bricks to borderline intelligent).</p>
<p>Just because Trans2 made gobs of money and is popular with the general public, doesn&#8217;t mean It&#8217;s not idiotic. In fact, usually movies that do extremely well with the MASS populace ARE idiotic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessarily egotistic or insulting to give a bad review of a movie. Obviously many people agree with the critics who think the movie was moronic. You just happen to not be one of them so you are vehemently trying to defend yourself by catering to the masses by saying &#8220;Hey-you&#8217;re not dumb! I&#8217;m with you!&#8221;. A clear case of pandering in need of validation.</p>
<p>Get over yourself. In the end, i don&#8217;t really care what the critics think &#8211; BUT i do look to them for previews of what i might expect &#8211; so i do listen to what they say &#8211; at least the intelligent ones. Asking a carte blanche question like &#8220;Do you care what critics think&#8221; stems from the same lowest common denominator thinking that drives Michael Bay&#8217;s style.</p>
<p>And btw &#8211; as far as &#8220;piss[ing] in [y]our punch&#8221; &#8211; I may not have the right to do it literally, but i have EVERY right to do it figuratively. It&#8217;s called freedom of speech &#8211; the same right that allows you to post inane articles like this one.</p>
<p>So &#8211; to quote your own article &#8220;shut the fuck up&#8221; and stop bitching because you&#8217;ve been outed as an idiotic critic.</p>
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		<title>By: srsly</title>
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		<dc:creator>srsly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reasoning of this entire post is specious.

Statistically, in the US population
10% have an IQ of 120+ (meaning they qualify academically &amp; psychologically as intelligent to genius level people)
10% have an IQ of 80- (meaning they neurologically or developmentally handicapped)
80% have an IQ of 80-120 (meaning the mass populace is somewhere between dumb-as-bricks to borderline intelligent).

Just because Trans2 made gobs of money and is popular with the general public, doesn&#039;t mean It&#039;s not idiotic. In fact, usually movies that do extremely well with the MASS populace ARE idiotic.

It&#039;s not necessarily egotistic or insulting to give a bad review of a movie. Obviously many people agree with the critics who think the movie was moronic. You just happen to not be one of them so you are vehemently trying to defend yourself by catering to the masses by saying &quot;Hey-you&#039;re not dumb! I&#039;m with you!&quot;. A clear case of pandering in need of validation.

Get over yourself. In the end, i don&#039;t really care what the critics think - BUT i do look to them for previews of what i might expect - so i do listen to what they say - at least the intelligent ones. Asking a carte blanche question like &quot;Do you care what critics think&quot; stems from the same lowest common denominator thinking that drives Michael Bay&#039;s style.

And btw - as far as &quot;piss[ing] in [y]our punch&quot; - I may not have the right to do it literally, but i have EVERY right to do it figuratively. It&#039;s called freedom of speech - the same right that allows you to post inane articles like this one.

So - to quote your own article &quot;shut the fuck up&quot; and stop bitching because you&#039;ve been outed as an idiotic critic.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reasoning of this entire post is specious.</p>
<p>Statistically, in the US population<br />
10% have an IQ of 120+ (meaning they qualify academically &amp; psychologically as intelligent to genius level people)<br />
10% have an IQ of 80- (meaning they neurologically or developmentally handicapped)<br />
80% have an IQ of 80-120 (meaning the mass populace is somewhere between dumb-as-bricks to borderline intelligent).</p>
<p>Just because Trans2 made gobs of money and is popular with the general public, doesn&#8217;t mean It&#8217;s not idiotic. In fact, usually movies that do extremely well with the MASS populace ARE idiotic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not necessarily egotistic or insulting to give a bad review of a movie. Obviously many people agree with the critics who think the movie was moronic. You just happen to not be one of them so you are vehemently trying to defend yourself by catering to the masses by saying &#8220;Hey-you&#8217;re not dumb! I&#8217;m with you!&#8221;. A clear case of pandering in need of validation.</p>
<p>Get over yourself. In the end, i don&#8217;t really care what the critics think &#8211; BUT i do look to them for previews of what i might expect &#8211; so i do listen to what they say &#8211; at least the intelligent ones. Asking a carte blanche question like &#8220;Do you care what critics think&#8221; stems from the same lowest common denominator thinking that drives Michael Bay&#8217;s style.</p>
<p>And btw &#8211; as far as &#8220;piss[ing] in [y]our punch&#8221; &#8211; I may not have the right to do it literally, but i have EVERY right to do it figuratively. It&#8217;s called freedom of speech &#8211; the same right that allows you to post inane articles like this one.</p>
<p>So &#8211; to quote your own article &#8220;shut the fuck up&#8221; and stop bitching because you&#8217;ve been outed as an idiotic critic.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebaxter1989</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebaxter1989</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If were talking straight up facts and figures then the following gives a more accurate picture;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terminator Salvation - $323,469,391&lt;br&gt;Star Trek - $369,332,179  	 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d love to have a failure that clocked up over 300 million. We really must look at worldwide as it gives a clearer picture. These films haven&#039;t brought in that different sums it seems. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway money is a terrible way to gauge a film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If were talking straight up facts and figures then the following gives a more accurate picture;</p>
<p>Terminator Salvation &#8211; $323,469,391<br />Star Trek &#8211; $369,332,179  	 </p>
<p>I&#39;d love to have a failure that clocked up over 300 million. We really must look at worldwide as it gives a clearer picture. These films haven&#39;t brought in that different sums it seems. </p>
<p>Anyway money is a terrible way to gauge a film.</p>
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		<title>By: Davebaxter1989</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davebaxter1989</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If were talking straight up facts and figures then the following gives a more accurate picture;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terminator Salvation - $323,469,391&lt;br&gt;Star Trek - $369,332,179  	 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;d love to have a failure that clocked up over 300 million. We really must look at worldwide as it gives a clearer picture. These films haven&#039;t brought in that different sums it seems. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway money is a terrible way to gauge a film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If were talking straight up facts and figures then the following gives a more accurate picture;</p>
<p>Terminator Salvation &#8211; $323,469,391<br />Star Trek &#8211; $369,332,179  	 </p>
<p>I&#39;d love to have a failure that clocked up over 300 million. We really must look at worldwide as it gives a clearer picture. These films haven&#39;t brought in that different sums it seems. </p>
<p>Anyway money is a terrible way to gauge a film.</p>
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		<title>By: keicharones</title>
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		<dc:creator>keicharones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Transformers 2. I am a movie critique, I help run a college film review site. Want to take a look at my recently watched list on Netflix? Casablanca was last seen about a month ago. I see more &#039;art house films&#039; in theatres than any one person I know. How about the two books which I have finished since Transformers 2 came out, might you be interested in knowing what year they were written? The civil war surrounding this film is ridiculous, why do people find so much importance in others&#039; opinions? None of this matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Transformers 2. I am a movie critique, I help run a college film review site. Want to take a look at my recently watched list on Netflix? Casablanca was last seen about a month ago. I see more &#39;art house films&#39; in theatres than any one person I know. How about the two books which I have finished since Transformers 2 came out, might you be interested in knowing what year they were written? The civil war surrounding this film is ridiculous, why do people find so much importance in others&#39; opinions? None of this matters.</p>
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		<title>By: keicharones</title>
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		<dc:creator>keicharones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Transformers 2. I am a movie critique, I help run a college film review site. Want to take a look at my recently watched list on Netflix? Casablanca was last seen about a month ago. I see more &#039;art house films&#039; in theatres than any one person I know. How about the two books which I have finished since Transformers 2 came out, might you be interested in knowing what year they were written? The civil war surrounding this film is ridiculous, why do people find so much importance in others&#039; opinions? None of this matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Transformers 2. I am a movie critique, I help run a college film review site. Want to take a look at my recently watched list on Netflix? Casablanca was last seen about a month ago. I see more &#39;art house films&#39; in theatres than any one person I know. How about the two books which I have finished since Transformers 2 came out, might you be interested in knowing what year they were written? The civil war surrounding this film is ridiculous, why do people find so much importance in others&#39; opinions? None of this matters.</p>
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		<title>By: deltavoyage</title>
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		<dc:creator>deltavoyage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both films had an outstanding marketing campaign with great trailers.  Terminator was a fairly popular franchise even though not as many people liked T3.  Star Trek, on the other hand, had really hit a rough patch as a franchise.  Nemesis bombed at the box office, and Enterprise was the first Star Trek show to be cancelled since the original series.  When Star Trek came out, it had incredibly positive reviews, and it made about $75 million in its opening weekend.  It also has had a lot of staying power at the box office and has made about $240 million domestically.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terminator Salvation, on the other hand, was released to generally negative reviews and the movie underperformed in its opening weekend.  It fell hard in its second weekend, and has only made around $120 million domestically.  If Star Trek hadn&#039;t had such positive word of mouth, it wouldn&#039;t have had nearly as much staying power at the box office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another example from this summer is X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  That movie made close to $90 million in its opening weekend, despite generally negative reviews.  However, the movie dropped by nearly 70% at the box office in its second weekend.  Granted, that was also the weekend that Star Trek was released, but it was a huge fall nonetheless.  Some movies are critic-proof (Transformers 2), but others are not (Terminator Salvation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both films had an outstanding marketing campaign with great trailers.  Terminator was a fairly popular franchise even though not as many people liked T3.  Star Trek, on the other hand, had really hit a rough patch as a franchise.  Nemesis bombed at the box office, and Enterprise was the first Star Trek show to be cancelled since the original series.  When Star Trek came out, it had incredibly positive reviews, and it made about $75 million in its opening weekend.  It also has had a lot of staying power at the box office and has made about $240 million domestically.</p>
<p>Terminator Salvation, on the other hand, was released to generally negative reviews and the movie underperformed in its opening weekend.  It fell hard in its second weekend, and has only made around $120 million domestically.  If Star Trek hadn&#39;t had such positive word of mouth, it wouldn&#39;t have had nearly as much staying power at the box office.</p>
<p>Another example from this summer is X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  That movie made close to $90 million in its opening weekend, despite generally negative reviews.  However, the movie dropped by nearly 70% at the box office in its second weekend.  Granted, that was also the weekend that Star Trek was released, but it was a huge fall nonetheless.  Some movies are critic-proof (Transformers 2), but others are not (Terminator Salvation).</p>
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		<title>By: deltavoyage</title>
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		<dc:creator>deltavoyage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both films had an outstanding marketing campaign with great trailers.  Terminator was a fairly popular franchise even though not as many people liked T3.  Star Trek, on the other hand, had really hit a rough patch as a franchise.  Nemesis bombed at the box office, and Enterprise was the first Star Trek show to be cancelled since the original series.  When Star Trek came out, it had incredibly positive reviews, and it made about $75 million in its opening weekend.  It also has had a lot of staying power at the box office and has made about $240 million domestically.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terminator Salvation, on the other hand, was released to generally negative reviews and the movie underperformed in its opening weekend.  It fell hard in its second weekend, and has only made around $120 million domestically.  If Star Trek hadn&#039;t had such positive word of mouth, it wouldn&#039;t have had nearly as much staying power at the box office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another example from this summer is X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  That movie made close to $90 million in its opening weekend, despite generally negative reviews.  However, the movie dropped by nearly 70% at the box office in its second weekend.  Granted, that was also the weekend that Star Trek was released, but it was a huge fall nonetheless.  Some movies are critic-proof (Transformers 2), but others are not (Terminator Salvation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both films had an outstanding marketing campaign with great trailers.  Terminator was a fairly popular franchise even though not as many people liked T3.  Star Trek, on the other hand, had really hit a rough patch as a franchise.  Nemesis bombed at the box office, and Enterprise was the first Star Trek show to be cancelled since the original series.  When Star Trek came out, it had incredibly positive reviews, and it made about $75 million in its opening weekend.  It also has had a lot of staying power at the box office and has made about $240 million domestically.</p>
<p>Terminator Salvation, on the other hand, was released to generally negative reviews and the movie underperformed in its opening weekend.  It fell hard in its second weekend, and has only made around $120 million domestically.  If Star Trek hadn&#39;t had such positive word of mouth, it wouldn&#39;t have had nearly as much staying power at the box office.</p>
<p>Another example from this summer is X-Men Origins: Wolverine.  That movie made close to $90 million in its opening weekend, despite generally negative reviews.  However, the movie dropped by nearly 70% at the box office in its second weekend.  Granted, that was also the weekend that Star Trek was released, but it was a huge fall nonetheless.  Some movies are critic-proof (Transformers 2), but others are not (Terminator Salvation).</p>
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		<title>By: deltavoyage</title>
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		<dc:creator>deltavoyage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of the box office projections that I looked at for Star Trek had it making over $200 million domestically.  Most had it top off at around $175 million, and this was after the huge marketing push for Star Trek.  Early reviews came out for the film, and they were extremely positive.  As a result, the film gained very positive word of mouth, and it had a lot of staying power at the box office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That also doesn&#039;t cover Terminator Salvation.  They had a lot of great marketing, with some of the best trailers that I&#039;ve seen.  But when the film came out, the reviews were pretty negative.  The movie underperformed in its first weekend and has only made about $120 million domestically.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m not saying that critics matter for every movie.  The people who saw Transformers 2 this weekend had made up their mind to see the movie the minute they saw a trailer for it.  They didn&#039;t go based on the positive review of a movie critic.  But critics still matter for some films, as Star Trek and Terminator Salvation prove.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of the box office projections that I looked at for Star Trek had it making over $200 million domestically.  Most had it top off at around $175 million, and this was after the huge marketing push for Star Trek.  Early reviews came out for the film, and they were extremely positive.  As a result, the film gained very positive word of mouth, and it had a lot of staying power at the box office.</p>
<p>That also doesn&#39;t cover Terminator Salvation.  They had a lot of great marketing, with some of the best trailers that I&#39;ve seen.  But when the film came out, the reviews were pretty negative.  The movie underperformed in its first weekend and has only made about $120 million domestically.</p>
<p>I&#39;m not saying that critics matter for every movie.  The people who saw Transformers 2 this weekend had made up their mind to see the movie the minute they saw a trailer for it.  They didn&#39;t go based on the positive review of a movie critic.  But critics still matter for some films, as Star Trek and Terminator Salvation prove.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>deltavoyage   critics don&#039;t matter. The reason Star Trek did so well was because of the marketing. Those guys at Paramount cut that trailer do be as cool as possible. They most likely sat at a table and said &quot;How can we make this look like Iron Man and Transformers and not Star Trek?&quot;. Look at X-men 3 for instance. Horrible reviews for that movie came out, I read many of them. I read so many I most decided to go &quot;What the hell I&#039;ll just wait for dvd&quot;, but then I saw that tv trailer FOX aired. I then remembered how cool that movie was, and so did alot of other people as X-men 3 broke records.&lt;br&gt;Now adays critics aren&#039;t really needed. If the trailer is cool people will go see, and if the marketing hits them in the right place they&#039;ll go see it. This isn&#039;t the 50&#039;s anymore where people read the newspaper and saw a review and went &quot;Oh this looks nice I&#039;ll go see this&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>deltavoyage   critics don&#39;t matter. The reason Star Trek did so well was because of the marketing. Those guys at Paramount cut that trailer do be as cool as possible. They most likely sat at a table and said &#8220;How can we make this look like Iron Man and Transformers and not Star Trek?&#8221;. Look at X-men 3 for instance. Horrible reviews for that movie came out, I read many of them. I read so many I most decided to go &#8220;What the hell I&#39;ll just wait for dvd&#8221;, but then I saw that tv trailer FOX aired. I then remembered how cool that movie was, and so did alot of other people as X-men 3 broke records.<br />Now adays critics aren&#39;t really needed. If the trailer is cool people will go see, and if the marketing hits them in the right place they&#39;ll go see it. This isn&#39;t the 50&#39;s anymore where people read the newspaper and saw a review and went &#8220;Oh this looks nice I&#39;ll go see this&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ??????</title>
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		<dc:creator>??????</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Critics sometimes make too much noise of the wrong kind, as they did with Transformers 2. Thankfully, the public voted with their wallets and put the critics where they belong. I always thought that the point of being a critic was to break the subject down and analyze it as objectively as possible?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ad-hominem attacks on the moviegoing public is disingenious at best.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whatever happened to objective critique?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Critics sometimes make too much noise of the wrong kind, as they did with Transformers 2. Thankfully, the public voted with their wallets and put the critics where they belong. I always thought that the point of being a critic was to break the subject down and analyze it as objectively as possible?</p>
<p>Ad-hominem attacks on the moviegoing public is disingenious at best.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to objective critique?</p>
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		<title>By: daviedave47</title>
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		<dc:creator>daviedave47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I understand that critics are basically paid to quantify their opinions of a movie into a rant of some sort, I usually disregard what they say...or at the very least, take what they have to say with a grain of salt (although I DO enjoy reading the reviews most of the time). Everyone&#039;s opinion of a movie (no matter what it is) will be different. Two people who like a certain movie will most likely enjoy it for differing reasons, just as those who dislike movies usually fall into the same. A negative review doesn&#039;t mean I won&#039;t see a movie flat out...just as a positive one will not prompt me to rush out and see one...I will see them, and then make my own opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I understand that critics are basically paid to quantify their opinions of a movie into a rant of some sort, I usually disregard what they say&#8230;or at the very least, take what they have to say with a grain of salt (although I DO enjoy reading the reviews most of the time). Everyone&#39;s opinion of a movie (no matter what it is) will be different. Two people who like a certain movie will most likely enjoy it for differing reasons, just as those who dislike movies usually fall into the same. A negative review doesn&#39;t mean I won&#39;t see a movie flat out&#8230;just as a positive one will not prompt me to rush out and see one&#8230;I will see them, and then make my own opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: nicknicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicknicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just because you like it doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t horrible. ala bad food. just because millions of muppets don&#039;t know any better doesn&#039;t mean critics shouldn&#039;t criticise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because you like it doesn&#39;t mean it isn&#39;t horrible. ala bad food. just because millions of muppets don&#39;t know any better doesn&#39;t mean critics shouldn&#39;t criticise.</p>
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		<title>By: nicknicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicknicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just because you like it doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t horrible. ala bad food. just because millions of muppets don&#039;t know any better doesn&#039;t mean critics shouldn&#039;t criticise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just because you like it doesn&#39;t mean it isn&#39;t horrible. ala bad food. just because millions of muppets don&#39;t know any better doesn&#39;t mean critics shouldn&#39;t criticise.</p>
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