Boiling Point: Things That Don’t – Issue #1

Posted by Robert Fure (robert@filmschoolrejects.com) on January 26, 2009

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Another week, another verbose tirade of rage. With a noticeable lack of football this weekend (Damn it, Eagles!) many channels opted to man-up with man movies, which lead to me watching several hours of Jean Claude Van Damme and Steven Seagal films. That’s enough to drive any man mad, considering these were the recent flicks, not the classics like Bloodsport.

Watching these films did bring about one positive thing – or at least, I think it will turn out to be positive. It helped me come up with a new facet to Boiling Point, a subsection entitled “Things That Don’t.” These somewhat randomly occurring Things That Don’t will focus on the enraging inconsistencies or straight out fallacies that appear in movies.

Yeah, we all love suspending disbelief, but some times things are just a touch too stupid to ignore. Or as Dr. Spock used to say, “This fucking shit ain’t logical.” I think it was Spock that said that. Anywho, first up, inspired by 12 hours of direct to video action movies: Things That Don’t Stop Bullets.

In action films, bullets will punch through some surfaces like butter but then be stopped by pieces of wood and cloth, shielding our good guys from harm. The following are a list of things that, in almost all instances, will fail to stop most pistol rounds and rifle rounds. Sure, in some instances a few of these might stop a bullet once in awhile, but my requirement was this – would I trust this object to save my life? These failed the test.

  • Wooden Doors. Most bullets will shred through these no problem.
  • Average Metal Doors. These things are generally not steel, plus they’re thin walled and hollow.
  • Tables. Wooden tables, definitely. Most metal tables are cheaply made and would be penetrated as well.
  • Cars. The only part of a car that will reliable stop a bullet is the engine. Doors, not so much.
  • Interior Walls. Unless you live in a castle, a handgun round will punch through about 4 interior walls.
  • Furniture. Ever notice good guys flip a couch over and evade being shot? Fat chance.
  • Books. Sorry to break it to you, but common handgun rounds will shred through pocket Bibles and even Encyclopedias.
  • People. Good guys love using baddies as human shields. Only problem is, at close ranges there is a fairly good chance of a bullet coming out the other side.
  • Trees. Sure, Red Woods still stop handguns. But lots of bullets will smash through smaller trees or send splinters flying out the back.
  • Helmets. It’s a common misconception helmets are designed to stop bullets. They’re really to protect from shrapnel and to shield the head from debris. Direct hits, even form handguns, can penetrate steel (WWII) and even modern battle helmets.
  • Zippos, lighters, and watches. Modern handgun rounds are fast, jacketed, and fairly heavy. Direct hits on any of those objects and you’re done for.

Those are some of the more common ones you see in movies and I tried to keep them, for the most part, at a list that would stop both rifles and handguns. But in movies, plenty of bad guys use guns like the AK-47 (7.62×39mm), the M4/M16 (5.56×45mm) or when they want to look high-tech, the G36 (also 5.56×45mm). When dealing with rifle rounds, you need to be very discerning about what you choose to hide behind. Cinder blocks, bricks, a full inch of steel – none of that will stop a direct hit from a rifle. Even “bullet proof” things – like vests or glass, come in different ratings, resulting in many “bullet proof” items that can stop handguns, but not rifles.

Hollywood has confused two very different things – cover and concealment. Car doors offer concealment, that is, if you hide behind it, they can’t necessarily see you. Cover, conversely, will stop the rounds and actually save your life. Things like sand dunes, huge rocks, and engine blocks.

I love movies, and I love guns, and I want to see more guns and more bullets in movies. But sometimes, the ridiculous stuff that goes on just drives me nuts. Hiding behind a low level thug is not going to prevent the main villain from putting you in a grave when he’s blasting away with an assault rifle. A blatant disregard for guns and physics is a surefire way to send me past my boiling point.

For some cool examples of bullets going through lots of different stuff, check out the Box o’ Truth.

What other objects have magically stopped bullets that you can think of? If you have any ideas for future “Things That Don’t” articles, spout off below or email me directly – you will be credited if what you pick makes it onto the site.


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  • How 'bout the snazzy silver mini platter that Bruce Wayne used to stop the Joker's bullet in Tim Burton's Batman?
  • Silver being very soft and platters being very thin, the odds of penetration are probably 99%. =)
  • Hmm, possibly not kevin unless it was a weak calibur like a .32.

    Don't forget wheels on cars if they have full metal and not cut out sections. Most police are instructed to use th engines and the wheels on thier vehicles as cover.

    My problem with movies is when they give the hero a bullet proof vest and he takes a .45 or larger calibur round and it bounces off. Not hardly, most vests can not stop rounds higher than 9mm. I like taking steel plates out to the range and betting people on whether my M4A3 can punch a hole thru it, most don't belive it can until I start firing.
  • Nevernude
    F**k the s**t right out of this. If Hollywood actually gave a darn about physics, machine guns would actually be f**kin machine guns! as in, they fire a s**tload of bullets sporadically and everybody, good guy or not, will soon see their vital internal organs fleeing their bodies and finding new homes on the walls and floors.
    F**k physics in movies!
  • Regarding your name: Why didn't I see you at the convention? There are dozens of us! Dozens!

    Anyway, I particularly hate it when wood is used for cover. It's goddammed wood!
  • Yes, you in the back?

    What about the very bullet-proof United States Constitution?
  • Fure...what about other bullets? or for that matter, handguns themselves?
  • If 2 bullets somehow managed to hit each other in flight (Wanted) they would probably deflect, not be stopped. If I had a vest made of bullets, I'd basically have a vest made of soft lead and moderate copper, a combination that I would not bet my life on stopping another bullet. As for handguns, depends on the gun and where on the gun. Lots of handguns these days have composite grips, meaning they're basically tough plastic. Inside that is a thin metal magazine, full of bullets. That might stop some handgun rounds (because the round will deform fairly significantly as it hits each new layer and slow down as well) but won't stop a rifle round. If it hits the slide of the weapon, which is generally hardened steel, with a hard barrel through it. That would be about an inch of metal or so, which might be able to stop a handgun round, but would probably fail against a rifle round, though if you're lucky, the rifle round will deform and deflect. Bullets penetrate tons of stuff when they hit cleanly against flat surfaces. In these situations, both bullets and handguns are generally not that flat - they may have round barrels, or be at angles against the body, or any number of things. The odds are fairly highly the round will deflect, though that can be just as bad as a bullet heading for your chest may now be heading for your head.

    Long story short - rifle rounds will penetrate lots of things, handgun rounds not as many. In both of these examples above, your best bet is if they're deflected, or lose enough energy to not enter your body too deeply.
  • 790
    What cracks me up is the automatic shoot the car and watch it blow up,,,
    How many times have we seen a 45 auto blowup a big rig or take out a small bus.

    Btw a Bullet proof vest will absorb a 45 cal round. Anyone that knows bullets/handguns realizes how slow that fat round travels. I'd rather be shot by a 45 than a 357 anyday, kinda. ... :)
  • Jake
    I saw a Mythbusters episode where with was confirmed that diving into a body of water may indeed be protection against high-speed bullets: http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2005/07/mythbusters_bu...
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